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Post by +3 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:42 am

ParaTroXic wrote:it has no breakdown, or buildup hence why it consists of two drops into one.
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Post by SaveMidnight » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:21 am

ParaTroxic - 1st drop is alright, 2nd drop feels strange. IdK, without the context of the song the two drops don't really do anything. It has a solid vibe, but I feel the little vocal cuts don't really need to be there.

BudSpencertron - I like the vibe, but I feel like the drums are a little too fast for the beat of the song. The bass is solid and the vocals sit well in the mix. Good tension around 1.03 - 1.18. Not sure why there's all that dead air at the end though.

+3 - I wonder what it sounded like before Logic crashed. I like the double kicks, although I'll admit I found them off-putting at first. The ambience at the beginning is nice, but I feel this track is lacking bass. Something smooth and rolling to tie the track together maybe. Also, I figure you understand this, but you're supposed to give feed back when you post a track. If you did and I missed it then sorry.

Crow Steppa- Nice effin vibe. The section that starts around .15 is awesome. Was not expecting the drop. The laughing sounds are really creepy and cool, and the drop makes me feel differently about the beginning. Keep working on this one. There's some mud in the drop section though.

Antman - Not a whole lot to say here. I'd say that the intro section needs a bit more but between this and your last WIP I heard I figure thats your thing. The drums and the bass do a good job of filling up this track, but I still think it could do with some variation, even if it comes in the form of a break.


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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:09 am

Houston Weather wrote: BudSpencertron - I like the vibe, but I feel like the drums are a little too fast for the beat of the song. The bass is solid and the vocals sit well in the mix. Good tension around 1.03 - 1.18. Not sure why there's all that dead air at the end though.
thanks for feedback! was just my signature though . yeah the beat was from my brother, was a way dif tune he gave me to work on, so thats an artifact of a time before yesterday. haha yeah i just cut it that way to show what i am up to atm; not a finished tune that has a long dead air outro
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Post by ParaTroXic » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:10 pm

Houston Weather - Ha-ha, where to begin... I like the intro vocals, really cool - similar to tarantula and stuff like centipede, nice find. However, the drop - needs a sub bass, as it majority of bass is coming from your kick drums. Likewise it is slightly repetitive. Lastly, to further improve it, use different sounds as those midrange sounds seem very obvious that they're from NI Massive, using probably the D-throat, Modern talking wavetables, with an LFO. In addition, you need to layer your snares, to make them sound louder and more impactful. In addition, use a different kick drum, perhaps one from a vengeance pack, as they are more hard hitting, and dub step like. The current one you are using are very acoustic sounding, which does not suit the kind of track that you're making.

To get an idea of what I mean, look at any famous dubstep/houlse/electro/dnb producer, and notice how their kicks, and snares compares to yours.

however your TRAP wip, I think is a lot better, I like that - nice.

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Post by Fbac » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:24 pm

@budspectrum:: Liking the scene you set in the intro, frequencies nicely filled out by the guitar birds and reverse lyrics. which are creepy in a "tool" type way. nice drop and bass noises. your low end is very nice. The added sound at 1:54 , helps to add a new dimension to the piece. nice work. cant think of anything to add.

@housten weather:: Haha... the voice in that sample. could proberly fade in those hi hats in the intro. the beats and sounds seemed to be abit too fast/manic for the voice sample.
That main synth sounds abit high up, maybe some filtering eq (dip the highs by -3.0 maybe) might make the synth less grating. The notes are alright but in the mix it just takes over. Nice edits. the synth sounds , sound like they have just come out of the synth with only a few tweaks, if that makes sense. The drums may be okay but couldnt quite hear them in the mix. Cheeky sound.

+3:: Nice intro, liking the water sound,, that wind instrument seems abit distroted. but i take it thats what your were aiming for. Not my cup of tea and the kick sounds abit "clunky"? and not to keen on the double kick. Part from that the sound design is well done and it makes me think of some well made strange ambient work...

Crowsteppa: Strange cheeky sort of vibe going on , that snare sounds either abit loud or abit to low frequency wise. @__@ wtf after the drop aha... for this style maybe instead of repeating looping all this crazyness try call and response with some of these sounds. and effect the laughing on the edits maybe?

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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:12 pm

@fbac thanks man! glad you dig it yeah was just my signature again but thanks for the feedback nontheless. hm i really like your tune just maybe layer some highfreq drums on top or make some very slight sidechains for the main snare and main bassdrum just to give it bit of a breath feeling the reece is pretty much perfect raw shit haha just try to get the drums to the same level and you have a banger :h: and yeah maybe make some filter effects like it hides in a hole or sth like harsh bandpass on the reece no drums and bring the reece back from the ground

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Post by Turnipish_Thoughts » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:39 pm

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Fuckinghell man! That's not even funny. Now I seriously mean this, that's the best reese I've heard since discovering Spor/Tech itch. However you've done that I'd kill to steal. The arrangement if the reese is nice, as for the drums I'd say they need work. Play about with how the brea krolls. I think such a neuro styled epic, clean reese needs some really punchy, up front clean/warm break, 2 step style. Sickest shit man, keep that up Mr!

@Houston Weather

I think your track needs a bit of a re-think, or a lot of mixdown, imo at least, sorry lol. I don't think the sample works with the drums in the intro, The drums when they drop feel pretty jarring and stuttery and the tops feel harsh/to loud, the mid range pad is pretty sharp and jarring also. I think you need to roll off the tops on a lot of your sounds and re-work a lot of the textures of most of your sounds so they work better together. given that, you've got some nice automation going on. I suppose in all you could say it needs more of a musical vibe/groove to it. It's just not my kind of thing really, not neuro/twisty enough to tickle my fancy, not melodic/warm enough to chill mah beans. Reminds me of the gabba end of the spectrum, which I've never been too fond of. Don't let me diss hearten you though my good man! I'm sure it's good for what it is.

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You've got some pretty smooth mid range bass going on, you've tamed the in your face feel enough to give it that slightly squashed vibe which is nice. The arrangement is pretty complicated too which is also cool and the drums have got that uber compressed sound. It's all very cleanly bro-stepy, which has it's place for certain. Try work in some ebb and sway to give the tune more dynamic range, at the moment it's very 'wall of sound'.

Ok my wip: Another Duby number, half way done re: arrangement. I know the drums need work with much more variation and the mix-down is non existent yet, but in terms of sound design/selection, groove, call and response, and musicality i think the main concept is pretty solid, crit feedback always welcome :W:

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Post by hendrix126 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:51 pm

@CrowSteppa I really like the underlying synth that at the start of 14 seconds. Just like SM0R3S, I felt that the second drop was a bit messy, but like you said it was a rough idea. I could definitely see it being a cool drop, especially with that laugh on top. That definitely gave me some ideas for my songs to incorporate a laugh like that.

@ParaTroXic I could definitely feel a Coki vibe within your song. The synth work is great and the variation with your synths keeps it fresh and interesting.

@HoustonWeather I love the vocal sample at the beginning, but it could use some reverb? so it doesn't sound so dry. Add a subbass so most of the low frequencies don't come solely from your kick drum. Some automation could vary the sound from your midranged bass to keep it interesting.

@Fbac The intro really kept my attention with the bass you created! I liked the glitched effect you applied to your reese around 35 seconds. In my opinion, the intro is a bit longer than I would make a song like that (maybe just shorten it by a few bars). I think the break you used works well with your reese, but could be a bit louder in the mix.

@TurnipishThoughts I really like the "dub" vibe throughout your song; its a nice change of pace. The percussion in your song is perfect in my opinion. The guitar line helps to tie everything together well. Off topic, but where are you a SigEp at?

Here is my WIP. Lately, I've been trying to make some "purple" synths to fit into my songs and i think it turned out well in some of my songs.
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Post by Turnipish_Thoughts » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:02 pm

Thanks for the feedback :)
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Post by ljk32 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:59 pm

@Fbac, I usually don't like the deeper sort of stuff, but that reese is just awesome, big ups on that. All I can say is that I think the kick needs work, I feel it lacks punch for the style of track, especially next to a reese like that.

@Turnipish Thoughts, you are definitely right, the sound design, groove and composition is very, very nice. Something just doesn't feel with the kick and snare, I'm not sure if they match the style entirely, but I think this is just personal taste so take this with a grain of salt.

@hendrix126, this is so hard to critique, I'm so unfamiliar with this sort of stuff, but from what I can tell, it sounds nicely put together. Sorry for this lousy feedback, but I don't know what else to say besides thinking it sounds nicely done.

Something I'm working on, the soundcloud comments basically say it all. But, any advice on how to extend this and structure it better would be great. As well as anything I can add, change or remove. I'm not sure if it's full enough - I have a hard time filling up tracks.

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Post by Fbac » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:08 am

@Budspencertron:: ah i never get names right on here, must have a name-dyslexia lol. Ive always thought it was budsprectrum tho for years xD. Youve got some tasty sound in your second soundcloud link.

@Turnipish Thoughts:: Like the cheeky jaunty vibe you get in your intro. nice chilled sounddesign. Nice kick and bass/sub . Considering you have no mixdown done, you should be able to finish this track reletivly easy as it doesnt sound like anything is clashing in the mix.

@hendrix126: Well youve definatly got what id call a "purple" sound , altho i dont listen to much of it. Very nice sci-fi soundscape you have going on. Im not a big fan on these style of drums (crunk/trap style) . Maybe take out the main sound just before the drop so that the riser has more pressence? . The extra synths at 1:16 are nice, maybe some chorus flange modulation automation could add some interesting movement to that layer.

ijk32:: Really nice man, dont think you need to fill out the frequencies anymore, cept maybe a bass/lead for when the vocal or piano arnt playing. really feeling the intro
@1:03:: instead of having the break/drums play the loop, id look into either just the kick playing and then doing a kick roll, or having the drums/break filterd or effected in some way. Part from that im digging this. Whats the song sample from? .... (*whistles "the heart ache is over... i wont be missing you...")


---In response to comments : Thankyou,, the track is for a remix competition and thats where the original reesce came from. I will post up my post proceesing and how i effected it in the reesce forum if you would like, or would here be better?

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Post by cmgoodman1226 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:11 pm

@ Turnpish thoughts: I really like the ideas here. The delay on the drums sounds really nice, although at times the drums sound a bit too distant and dampened. The Melody is really nice and flows quite well. Nice work.

@hendrix126: This defenitly could be a good track. I'd turn down the volume on that really lowpassed high reese. It starts to get really annoying like a siren after a while. The lower reeses sound nice as does the percussion. I would also take out that trap style riser that play right before the drums hit; it just sounds to cheesey and cliche IMO.

@ Antman: I really like that snare. The rest of the percussion is great but I always feel like it's better to do 8th notes first and then speed up to triplets (in terms of your hats). Maybe you could just try switching the parts around completely? I'd like to hear a sound not quite as heavily bitcrushed over top of the sub, or a bit thicker sound to compliment what you've already got. Anyways, just my .02 cents.

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Post by ljk32 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:24 am

@cmgoodman1226, this is absolutely amazing, the percussion sits nicely, the vocal one shots work well, the sub bass is just ridiculously awesome, and all the background atmosphere gives you shivers. There is literally only one thing I don't like in this track - the sound at about 2:03, where the transition is, it just doesn't feel right. Can I ask, in the main part, the sub on the second bar sounds like it's mixed with a person groaning, or humming at a low pitch, is that what you did? It sounds so damn awesome. Also, don't take this the wrong way, but I just don't understand why you avoided giving me feedback, you missed me, went to the two guys above me, and then to a guy on the page before. But then again, you could've missed it or something. Anyway, big ups on this track, really loving it.

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Post by Crow Steppa » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:54 am

@cm-great tune. love that vibe and that sub. nothing really too noticeable that needs work, its a solid tune all around.

@ljk-not really my style but still can give some advice. maybe give that kick some more thump and cut out lower frequencies.

@hendrix-nice tune but those synths really overpower the mix imo. bring that 808 up dude and sidechain the rest of that track to that kick, thats what carries the tune.

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Post by BYTEME » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:28 am

@Kibb If you're trying to go for a more Hardstyle tune, I suggest changing that kick because it really doesn't feel right with those sounds. It stands out WAAAAY too much.
There should be some good Hardstyle kicks, or you can make your own if you really want something to learn more about and waste time to do. It's quite interesting. HEAVY ON DISTORTION and a sort of froggy sound you want for that kick.

@ParaTroXic The 2nd drop is better. But I'm hearing a hell of a lot of this formanty sound in the bass. It's ringing a lot, try EQing some of it down around the upper mids. It sounds like a bell. You'll hear it. And then add more bass in that bass. :}

@BudSpencertron I really am in love with the entire flow of that tracks bass. Turn up the guitar a tid bit, or turn down the drums over the guitar, then have them go back up when the 'drop' happens. It feels really smooth.

So uhh... I took a little tutorial on a Doctor P type screech sound for a bass, (I especially like the kind used in Flying Spaghetti Monster) and as I was mixing certain instruments to make the whole track more full sounding. I started to fuck up all the EQing and now I can't figure out what's wrong with the track except maybe the sub is too loud or something with the screech bass because it's doing weird things as it glides to notes. Or maybe even the drums. I just can't figure it out really. But something does NOT sound right and I want to fix it but I need some ears to help me figure out whats sounding wrong. My left headphone snapped and broke out so I can't hear in my left headphone. And these laptop speakers are utter shit.

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Post by BYTEME » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:32 am

@ljk32 lowpass a little bit on those rising chords you have. It's really ear piercing.... Other than that synth you have in the intro is just amazingly beautiful and I'm curious as to how you did that. It sounds so ambient and deep.. :'(
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Post by ljk32 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:40 am

I don't really know which synth you are talking about. There's only the chorded pluck really. Wait, you may be talking about the track in my sig and not the one I posted.

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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:56 pm

BYTEME wrote:@BudSpencertron I really am in love with the entire flow of that tracks bass. Turn up the guitar a tid bit, or turn down the drums over the guitar, then have them go back up when the 'drop' happens. It feels really smooth.
thanks but yeah its very hard to raise the guitar in volume cause its just some shitty headphone recordings of me playing but yeah i might give it another go :Q:
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Post by johnkimble » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:10 am

@Crow Steppa
Your Nic-Cage tune really gets me thinking about Fabriclive37 and the rest. The samples and the wobble would get a party going on.
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Damn. The 'Remember' tune. That lazy, feel-good type of sound I would reallly like to work upon on my productions - I love it. Been up for a solid 30 hours and that song really hit every spot that I can think about. Kudos to you.
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Tiger Style tune. Solid party music. Reminds me of Requake, Badklaat etc. and would play it in a mix. And to quote myself earlier - this, again, reminds me of the EARLY Rusko/Caspa style they pushed for a while and that's a good note, always.

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Post by D-ROD » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:34 am

@BYTEME: Not really accustomed to this style of music. Really digging the melodies though. In my opinion, the off beat clap in the beginning sounds awkward, maybe try putting it in a different spot or adding another clap in there? Maybe that's what the feel you're going for though, i dunno.

@BudSpencertron: Really love your bass sounds and bass line. Haha, duno what else to say.

@Crow Steppa: Digging the laid back feel for sure. Could see some rapping or vocals or something go over top of it, something to fill it out a little, it feels a tad 'naked'.

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