meshuggah bass/guitar

[Hashkey]

Any fan here tried to synthetize it?

[Hircine]

the beautiful sound of a 7 string guitar tuned to drop f

[Artie_Fufkin]

Not meshuggah specifically but I once tried to do breakdowns with a synth. It was a hybrid waveform I drew in renoise's sampler with a volume envelope (ramped down for the initial attack) and a lp filter with the same down ramp movement for attack. It didn't sound like a guitar or bass at all but at the time I thought it sounded neat playing simultaneously with the "The Best Kick on Earth" sample. And I tried blastbeats with a snare one shot

If I was to try it again, I'd try to get an oscillator that has the same harmonics as a guitar and try to get the envelope of the sound right (have to think about whether you want to do open string or palm muted and find out the envelopes across the whole frequency spectrum) and run it through some guitar distortion and amp emulation. Or find the best e-guitar/bass preset on a synth. FM synths usually have a neat/funny [slap] bass guitar preset.
Although it would be a lot better sounding just to work with samples if you want that sound itself.

Why do you ask?

[Gravehill]

ive gotten those low djenty sounds with massive and ohmicide. big chocolate does some stuff like that

[Genevieve]

You can get chugs or distorted bass by fuckin' wit' a reese... The dissonant high end bits can be done by making a brostep screech..

[RandoRando]

ive remade the drums from bleed in midi. that song hurts like hell on guitar

[Hashkey]

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I've come out with this idea today.
Working with in mind Stengah, LoL

what do you think about?

[hendrix126]

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I've come out with this idea today.
Working with in mind Stengah, LoL

what do you think about?

That is definitely cool! How did you go about it?

[Towany]

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I've come out with this idea today.
Working with in mind Stengah, LoL

what do you think about?

Love Meshuggah, Love Stengah, Love the idea of your tune! Keep working on it man that'll be sick when its done!

[Vast_Grid]

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I've come out with this idea today.
Working with in mind Stengah, LoL

what do you think about?

Man, make some eerie leads and it's tits

[deadly_habit]

While not the guitars or bass I figured some peeps might like to know that Tomas Haake (drummer for Meshuggah) worked on the Drumkit from Hell kit for EZdrummer
http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=11

[ill mindset]

FM8 is capable of some heavy guitarish sounds. Most of those bands tune to around C#.

Edit: I was talking about 6 string tuning and I'm not speaking specifically of Meshuggah. From my 12+ years experience playing in metal bands 6 string guitars are still very popular.

On a 7 string guitar there would be another lower string. Frequently dropped tuned for a 1 finger power chord. That 7th string sounds like mud if you ask me.

[RandoRando]

FM8 is capable of some heavy guitarish sounds. Most of those bands tune to around C#.

nah man, meshuggah is in drop F i believe mate

[Kit Fysto]

FM8 is capable of some heavy guitarish sounds. Most of those bands tune to around C#.

nah man, meshuggah is in drop F i believe mate

If not F it's at the very highest G# I'd say. C# is not low at all on a guitar. I'm pretty sure nirvana In Utero is drop C# just to give you a frame of reference

I don't think replicating a guitar chug with a synth is ever gonna be really possible (actually believable), and if it is, I don't think it would be ever be as good as just sampling it. If you're really hellbent on doing it though, the best advice I can give using a quick pitch envelope on your patch to simulate the the pick hitting the strings. The note on a guitar always quickly goes a little sharp when the pick first hits and this varies based on the player and how heavy their hand is.

[deadly_habit]

Fredrik Thordendal and Marten Hagstrom of Meshuggah tune their 8-string guitars F+B♭+E♭-A♭-D♭-G♭-B♭-E♭, and occasionally drop it to E♭+B♭+E♭-A♭-D♭-G♭-B♭-E♭, and even five semitones below this tuning, for the song Spasm

[Towany]

For people talking about tuning he actually says it in this video...

[Hashkey]

Soundcloud

I've come out with this idea today.
Working with in mind Stengah, LoL

what do you think about?

That is definitely cool! How did you go about it?

What do you want to know? FX chains or synth?

[shakas]

FM8 is capable of some heavy guitarish sounds. Most of those bands tune to around C#.

nah man, meshuggah is in drop F i believe mate

If not F it's at the very highest G# I'd say. C# is not low at all on a guitar. I'm pretty sure nirvana In Utero is drop C# just to give you a frame of reference

I don't think replicating a guitar chug with a synth is ever gonna be really possible (actually believable), and if it is, I don't think it would be ever be as good as just sampling it. If you're really hellbent on doing it though, the best advice I can give using a quick pitch envelope on your patch to simulate the the pick hitting the strings. The note on a guitar always quickly goes a little sharp when the pick first hits and this varies based on the player and how heavy their hand is.

^---- i was just about to suggest what this guy said. to further emulate the guitar sound there needs to be some of quick scratchy noise at the attack. to sound like the pick hitting the string. you could even slightly modulate that sound to make it a bit different every time around. as on a real guitar the sound would change depending on if you are picking downward or an upstroke ...and the velocity of your picking not staying perfectly consistent.
super low tuned guitars especially have a slight pitch change quickly after the attack...it would only be a matter of quickly modulation the pitch by a matter of cents (10c-40c range maybe ?) dropping into your intended note.

if you've heard skrillex - san diego(vip) song there's kinda some synthed metal power chord chugging goin' on in that...even the high pitch lead stuff in it kind of sounds like a a guitarist yankin up and down on his whammy bar during a solo, to me.

[Hashkey]

surelly some transient design. On the attack could do the difference.

[hendrix126]

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I've come out with this idea today.
Working with in mind Stengah, LoL

what do you think about?

That is definitely cool! How did you go about it?

What do you want to know? FX chains or synth?

Both if you're feeling that generous! If not, maybe the synth work.