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Notes frequencies in basslines

Post by daft cunt » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:42 pm

When creating a bassline there're always notes that sound much louder than the others although the scope shows no difference.
What are your tricks to make them sound equal?

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Post by vonboyage » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:43 pm

Fucking god i was guna ask this.. well.. no, i werent, but i was thinkin about this while lissening to my tunes b-line.

Any ideas??
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Post by barryhercules » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:45 pm

check sound on sound... they did an article on the joys of bass and its problems a few months back...reckon it'll be online now. also went into avoiding problems when cutting vinyl due to bass n stuff.

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Post by forensix (mcr) » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:48 pm

chances are that it's the standing waves in your room making them louder ather than they actually being much louder check your tunes out on different systems in different rooms

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Post by cryptic » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:52 pm

In normally just turn it down - but sometimes i cant as the filter cut is fixed to how hard you press the key!

Is compression the key here?
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Post by forensix (mcr) » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:54 pm

CRYPTIC wrote:In normally just turn it down - but sometimes i can as the filter cut is fixed to how hard you press the key!

Is compression the key here?
Yes possible even limiting
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Post by wascal » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:54 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:chances are that it's the standing waves in your room making them louder ather than they actually being much louder check your tunes out on different systems in different rooms
A few years ago in an old flat I was producing in, every time I wrote a tune with subs around Eb1 it honked ridiculously loudly. It turned out it was just the room acoustics and it was fine everywhere else. Always worth having a look on a spectral analyzer to make sure thats the case though.

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Post by vonboyage » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:54 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:check your tunes out on different systems in different rooms
I aint reli got many places to check em out, my living room speakers are decent, give a decent bass analysis.. but other than that, nowhere.

The volume on the higher key bassnotes is still higher.

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Sayin that in some cases it might the the dynamics of the room itself, it has a rectagnular protruding alcove in the corner ceiling.
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Post by forensix (mcr) » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:58 pm

ipod? car stereo? mate's house?

Try limiting it see if that helps or you could lower the velocity on the higher notes

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Post by distance » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:06 pm

try a little compression.

Or split your sub track into two channels..... High and lower frequencies. That way you can eq both accordingly and set the volumes straight.

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Post by daft cunt » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:26 am

Late thx to everyone for replies.
Don't have time to try shit atm but this is gonna help for sure.

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Post by d-T-r » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:29 pm

by Spor, from lifted.


Note to Hz conversions:


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Post by daft cunt » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:31 pm

dTruk wrote:by Spor, from lifted.


Note to Hz conversions:


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About frequency chart... what are you supposed to do with it? :oops:

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Post by distro » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:29 pm

check the resonance level on your filter.. Can cause issues when filtering lower frequencies.. also EQ's can cause issues at these freqs.. But most of all i'd say its your room. one thing i notice is.. my co9mputer case vibrates and my printer also at 50-52hz.. but not when say 55hz - 60.. Just your room and the items in it. Everything has its own vibrational frequency

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Post by sick rebel » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:11 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:chances are that it's the standing waves in your room making them louder ather than they actually being much louder check your tunes out on different systems in different rooms
i reckon this is the most likely reason. have a listen on headphones and see if it still jumps about in volume. if it does then give it some EQ to tone down the loud ones, or turn down the resonance on your synth a bit, and then stick some slight compression on it to even it out even more.

If it sounds fine on your headphones then LEAVE IT ALONE!!!! If you start playing around with trying to get the levels on the different bass notes perfect then they really are going to sound different in any where that isn't the room you did the mix in i.e clubs. clubs are acoustically treated and have graphical eq to sort out exactly this problem, but it only works on a specific room.

seriously, don't even bother trying to correct this as it's a headache to get it right just for your own room, and even more of a headache when you get it mastered/played out and it sounds crap.

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