how is kode9 getting spaceape's

doctah x · Post by **doctah x** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:32 pm

vocals to sound sooooooo thick?

future one · Post by **future one** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:44 pm

doctah x wrote:vocals to sound sooooooo thick?

good question...

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:44 pm

A nice, transparent compressor (LA2A?) and good mic placement?

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:54 pm

panning.

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:17 pm

TeReKeTe wrote:panning.

Yeah, just listened to it now...

It appears that it might be the old hard pan the same signal left and right with a tiny delay in just one of them. Gives you a super wide sound. Fools the ears. I've forgotten the name of the phenomenon now. It works, though.

I did the same thing to the vocals in my Real Mahatma remix.

future one · Post by **future one** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:28 am

two oh one wrote:
TeReKeTe wrote:panning.
Yeah, just listened to it now...

It appears that it might be the old hard pan the same signal left and right with a tiny delay in just one of them. Gives you a super wide sound. Fools the ears. I've forgotten the name of the phenomenon now. It works, though.

I did the same thing to the vocals in my Real Mahatma remix.

Does that not sound like its phasing?

escapee planes · Post by **escapee planes** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:59 am

Not if you put enough of a time gap between them.

auan · Post by **auan** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:05 am

It's not "cheat" double tracking, described above, it's the real thing. Spaceape is toasting the same thing twice, and Kode 9 is panning one left and one right. You can hear it because sometimes the two sides aren't exactly the same. He also autopans them and does all crazy shit with the two channels, so that things drift in and out of stereo, sometimes subtle, sometimes extreme left and right.

One of the tracks on the album has him doing both, the real way on the verse, and the cheat way on the chorus, and you can hear the difference. Think it might be Portal.

Pretty common in mixing vocals that are singing. Not so common in vocals that are doing what Spaceape is doing. And hence genius.

overcast radio · Post by **overcast radio** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:14 pm

Yep, double-tracking, I think.

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westernsynthetics · Post by **westernsynthetics** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:34 am

did he use a sampler? and play the vocals back in a lower key? or has spaceape just got a really low voice? Cause is live vocals dont seem as low as the recordings..

auan · Post by **auan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:40 am

Haven't seen em live but my guess is he's just talking quieter into the mic in the studio, more relaxed and all that, probably caned, giving his voice a different dynamic.

lilt · Post by **lilt** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:24 am

to get it even thicker you can do three takes and hard pan one left, one right and then keep one dead centre

put the volume of the hard panned tracks quite low and the one in the centre right up front in the mix

i have used this to get many a good outcome

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:29 am

Yup, its all about layering multiple takes.

Thats how a lot of people get vocals sounding so good.

That's how Freddie Mercury did it, and (regardless of your opinions of Queen music) he should know.

I remember hearing a sound engineer saying he could sing so accurately that occasionally the multiple takes would start to phase, and they had to make them "imperfect" in editing to stop it happening

Random aside over. Carry on!

osk · Post by **osk** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:32 pm

gravious wrote:Yup, its all about layering multiple takes.

Thats how a lot of people get vocals sounding so good.

That's how Freddie Mercury did it, and (regardless of your opinions of Queen music) he should know.

I remember hearing a sound engineer saying he could sing so accurately that occasionally the multiple takes would start to phase, and they had to make them "imperfect" in editing to stop it happening

Random aside over. Carry on!

Random? Yes.

Interesting? Extremely.

westernsynthetics · Post by **westernsynthetics** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:47 am

Osk wrote:
gravious wrote:Yup, its all about layering multiple takes.

Thats how a lot of people get vocals sounding so good.

That's how Freddie Mercury did it, and (regardless of your opinions of Queen music) he should know.

I remember hearing a sound engineer saying he could sing so accurately that occasionally the multiple takes would start to phase, and they had to make them "imperfect" in editing to stop it happening

Random aside over. Carry on!
Random? Yes.

Interesting? Extremely.

Thats fucking amazing...Mercury really was a freak vocalist.

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