Scared about learning to DJ.

3za · Post by **3za** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:06 am

jonahmann wrote:Fourier analysis.

The guy is producing music ffs.

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:10 am

Opps. Sorry : ) Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio by Mike Senior. I liked it. I learned : )

xhayatox · Post by **xhayatox** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:20 am

fragments wrote:Opps. Sorry : ) Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio by Mike Senior. I liked it. I learned : )

Wonderful! Does this book cover stuff like EQ, Compression, Mixing,Mastering, etc?

NinjaEdit · Post by **NinjaEdit** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:27 am

xhayatox wrote:
jonahmann wrote:What do you do if you need to know anything else, like the population of Spain?

Go on Wikipedia and look up EQ. If that isn't enough, use a search engine. For more advanced material, research Fourier analysis.

Anyway DJing is about a tenth the difficulty of producing music. Maybe try some software like Virtual DJ?
I need books my man. I've looked up stuff online but I'd like to learn more. I just really want to buy some books that cover stuff like EQ,Compression,etc. Stuff you'd usually find in electronic music.

There was big thread on Music Production book recommendations, same thing applies.

The guy is producing music ffs.

And wanted to know how an EQ works.

xhayatox · Post by **xhayatox** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:28 am

jonahmann wrote:
xhayatox wrote:
jonahmann wrote:What do you do if you need to know anything else, like the population of Spain?

Go on Wikipedia and look up EQ. If that isn't enough, use a search engine. For more advanced material, research Fourier analysis.

Anyway DJing is about a tenth the difficulty of producing music. Maybe try some software like Virtual DJ?
I need books my man. I've looked up stuff online but I'd like to learn more. I just really want to buy some books that cover stuff like EQ,Compression,etc. Stuff you'd usually find in electronic music.
There was big thread on Music Production book recommendations, same thing applies.

The guy is producing music ffs.
And wanted to know how an EQ works.

Dude everybody learns at their own pace. And can you link me to the thread you're talking about? Thanks

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:02 am

xhayatox wrote:
fragments wrote:Opps. Sorry : ) Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio by Mike Senior. I liked it. I learned : )
Wonderful! Does this book cover stuff like EQ, Compression, Mixing,Mastering, etc?

No mastering. Just mixing. But even talks about choosing monitors, placing them, treatment etc.

NinjaEdit · Post by **NinjaEdit** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:49 am

xhayatox wrote:
jonahmann wrote:
xhayatox wrote:
jonahmann wrote:What do you do if you need to know anything else, like the population of Spain?

Go on Wikipedia and look up EQ. If that isn't enough, use a search engine. For more advanced material, research Fourier analysis.

Anyway DJing is about a tenth the difficulty of producing music. Maybe try some software like Virtual DJ?
I need books my man. I've looked up stuff online but I'd like to learn more. I just really want to buy some books that cover stuff like EQ,Compression,etc. Stuff you'd usually find in electronic music.
There was big thread on Music Production book recommendations, same thing applies.

The guy is producing music ffs.
And wanted to know how an EQ works.
Dude everybody learns at their own pace. And can you link me to the thread you're talking about? Thanks

Instead, I'll link you to what I'm trying to communicate.

I feel a little bit like I'm getting trolled, actually.

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:22 am

xhayatox wrote:I've been a music producer for about 3 years now, but recently I've developed an interest in wanting to learn how to DJ. So, I'd really like to learn how to DJ, but here is the problem. Learning how to use the equipment is the biggest challenge for me. What is the best way to learn how to use a Mixer? There are so many knobs and sliders on it, and it seems impossible to learn how to use them all and know what they each individually do. Can someone please provide some advice for me? I just don't want to go out and spend $1000 on equipment, bring it home, and not understand how to use it. I've never been really good at understanding manuals either, because they are written in a very technical format, and often confuse me. The mixer that I want to get is called the DJM 700 and it's within my budget and everything, but I can't find any tutorials for this mixer online, and I can't find any books that explain how to use it either. What can I do?

Only book you'll ever need on DJing;

How To DJ (Properly): The Art And Science Of Playing Records - http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-DJ-Properly ... 0593058119

Goes through everything with diagrams/step by step tutorials/etc.

xhayatox · Post by **xhayatox** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:42 am

wub wrote:
xhayatox wrote:I've been a music producer for about 3 years now, but recently I've developed an interest in wanting to learn how to DJ. So, I'd really like to learn how to DJ, but here is the problem. Learning how to use the equipment is the biggest challenge for me. What is the best way to learn how to use a Mixer? There are so many knobs and sliders on it, and it seems impossible to learn how to use them all and know what they each individually do. Can someone please provide some advice for me? I just don't want to go out and spend $1000 on equipment, bring it home, and not understand how to use it. I've never been really good at understanding manuals either, because they are written in a very technical format, and often confuse me. The mixer that I want to get is called the DJM 700 and it's within my budget and everything, but I can't find any tutorials for this mixer online, and I can't find any books that explain how to use it either. What can I do?
Only book you'll ever need on DJing;

How To DJ (Properly): The Art And Science Of Playing Records - http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-DJ-Properly ... 0593058119

Goes through everything with diagrams/step by step tutorials/etc.

That's awesome! Is this book for Digital DJing specifically? And will this book work regardless of what Mixer and equipment I use, is that right?

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:12 am

It's for DJing in all it's many forms. There are sections on vinyl, CDs and digital DJing. All mixers operate on generally the same principles in terms of what the knobs/faders do...this book will provide you with an excellent grounding.

wwwmoo · Post by **wwwmoo** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:06 am

Back on topic, DJing is just like learning to ride a bike (to some degree). It's not too hard, and once you get the hang of it, you can do some really cool stuff. It just takes practice. Dont fret over having a bunch of controls you dont understand when you first start out. Just think back to how you started producing, did you go crazy trying out every single option in your entire DAW? Just have fun and it'll make sense.

Basics: learn how to cut bass frequencies and beatmatch and everything else can be built up until you can be an awesome DJ

mromgwtf · Post by **mromgwtf** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:45 am

Fourier analysis.

Why should a typical producer give a fuck about fourier transforms/how EQ works inside?

NinjaEdit · Post by **NinjaEdit** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:54 am

Because they don't want to be naive aka "a typical producer." He asked how an EQ works, and I answered his question, so perhaps you should ask him. The best answer he had gotten was "it controls the different amounts of the frequencies" which translates to "I don't know either."

It's like asking "why should a typical driver give a fuck about a combustion engine/how a car works inside?" after a mechanic explains it at a customer's request.

RARRR_ · Post by **RARRR_** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:23 pm

Just gotta learn to beat match.. learn song structures and thats pretty much it

Burning a 2-3 min drum loop at the same bpm is something ive used to teach people the basics

Anyhow
Some things i wish i was told when i learned how to dj ->>

Never have two lows turned up
To fade/mix between two songs switch over the highs

Most genres are written in the same bpm (aka 90% of dubstep is 140 so leave your pitch at the same %)
If its not 140 its probably 142 which is +1.7% if i remember likely... i mostly play dnb at around 180 so ill normally try pitching a song up to 2.9 first then adjust by ear as most songs are 175 (pretty cool trick is to learn the common pitch %'s... trial and error is good for clubs with no/bad monitors where you cant hear too well)

Most intros are 32 or 64 bars.. so thisll tell you where to drop in your tune

Never go in the red! too many deaf djs driving mixer too hard is real tiring

another pet hate - dont boost freqs much (unless its a vinyl from the early 90s it should be mastered)

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:57 pm

jonahmann wrote:Because they don't want to be naive aka "a typical producer." He asked how an EQ works, and I answered his question, so perhaps you should ask him. The best answer he had gotten was "it controls the different amounts of the frequencies" which translates to "I don't know either."

It's like asking "why should a typical driver give a fuck about a combustion engine/how a car works inside?" after a mechanic explains it at a customer's request.

No, the best answer he got was that it boosts or reduces frequencies. Are you gonna tell me that's incorrect

NinjaEdit · Post by **NinjaEdit** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:49 pm

That's like answering "how does a car work?" with "you press on the accelerator and it goes."

HOW does it do that? (Fourier analysis).

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:40 pm

Yes but do you need to know how a computer works on the inside to be able to use one?

atlascesar · Post by **atlascesar** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:23 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:
jonahmann wrote:Because they don't want to be naive aka "a typical producer." He asked how an EQ works, and I answered his question, so perhaps you should ask him. The best answer he had gotten was "it controls the different amounts of the frequencies" which translates to "I don't know either."

It's like asking "why should a typical driver give a fuck about a combustion engine/how a car works inside?" after a mechanic explains it at a customer's request.
No, the best answer he got was that it boosts or reduces frequencies. Are you gonna tell me that's incorrect

my friend this is a good question so much and the abrhams friend is not incorrect but perhaps the atlas friend can PROVIDE help and say it is so much inaccurate.

it is not the frequencies which are getting the booster shot or reduction surgery, and it is instead the portion control of the signal, which is represented by the SUPERPOSITION of COMPLEX SPECTRAL LINES forming the INFINITE CONTINUUM of HARMONIC REPRESENTATION!!!!!! and so much the fourjyay transformer is important for to understand and remember to be safe and HAVE FUN!

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:20 pm

atlascesar wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
jonahmann wrote:Because they don't want to be naive aka "a typical producer." He asked how an EQ works, and I answered his question, so perhaps you should ask him. The best answer he had gotten was "it controls the different amounts of the frequencies" which translates to "I don't know either."

It's like asking "why should a typical driver give a fuck about a combustion engine/how a car works inside?" after a mechanic explains it at a customer's request.
No, the best answer he got was that it boosts or reduces frequencies. Are you gonna tell me that's incorrect
my friend this is a good question so much and the abrhams friend is not incorrect but perhaps the atlas friend can PROVIDE help and say it is so much inaccurate.

it is not the frequencies which are getting the booster shot or reduction surgery, and it is instead the portion control of the signal, which is represented by the SUPERPOSITION of COMPLEX SPECTRAL LINES forming the INFINITE CONTINUUM of HARMONIC REPRESENTATION!!!!!! and so much the fourjyay transformer is important for to understand and remember to be safe and HAVE FUN!

Now we are just splitting hairs

NinjaEdit · Post by **NinjaEdit** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:41 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:Yes but do you need to know how a computer works on the inside to be able to use one?

He said has been using EQ, and now wants to know how it works.

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