WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

[cpdwane]

@dotcurrency

Definitely don't bin it! I love the buildup with the drums and the vocal sample in between the drums. After the drop I love the wobble as well although I think maybe it gets too"wobbly" at the end. I'd add another synth or something over the top of the rest of the beat before you go mad with the LFO; save that for later in the song. Maybe that's just how I'd have arranged it though. Also, there needs to be a bit more going on between 0:51 and the drop. Maybe sidechain that white noise to something to make it come alive a bit more, or add some delay?

[BaasDNB]

cdpwane, new year dub is a good start. Its a nice and chill dub space vibe. It has good harmony and its clear you have the ear to improvise (cough unlike some others here cough). I would suggest using samples or recording instruments to replace that synth that comes in at 1:09 and echoes at the tail. It sounds cheap and would be a lot better if you used some real samples instead and it needs some small changes every 8 bars or so. Same goes for the flute thing at 2:45. Your kick is pretty lost, barely punches. The baseline could use more variation. Like currently it goes D and then E, and then just does that over and over.. Other than that, good job. Reminds me of this song

[BaasDNB]

Here's a dnb track im working on. Obviously needs a lot of work still but its getting closer. Soundcloud

and some experimental chill stuff
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[D-ROD]

Any who...I've posted more feedback in other posts and will post more later

Here's an updated version of my DNB track

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[Burgeamon]

dotcurrency
Def feeling this one so don't bin it. Has some coki / zomby-kinda vibes. The build up was good but I'd maybe chop the first few bars off or do something else with them, the bare kick and snare wasn't the best start but as soon as the shuffles and percs start all is gravy. At 0.48 the crash is a little abrupt so there could be a little buildup into that. Great job tho.

BaasDNB
To stop the thread derailing I'm just going to ignore everything thats been said and offer my thoughts. The track itself sounds a little simplistic at the moment but I think a lot of that comes from the drums / breaks. They seem to be lacking a little energy and a little punch. Maybe try layering some high passed breaks and bringing out the kick and snare a little more (maybe some parallel comp?). The bass sounds nice, especially in the lower mids, would be keen to know youre processing there.

D-ROD
I feel that highpassed reese could come up a fair bit, it shouldn't be interfering with the kick. At the drop, I'm not really feeling the bass sound only because it's not really got much going on until like 300hz, feels like theres a big gap between the sub/kick >>> bass. Some movement and width here would make the world of difference. Also, in the build up try using some long filter sweeps to help build the tension before it kicks in, with everything staying at a constant volume the build suffers a little.

Here's the latest one of mine. I'm really keen to get the mixdown sounding as huge as possible so any tips / advice on that would be great!
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[alexeyhermann]

Burgeamon - very grovy man , no suggestions here, keep up the good work.

D-ROD - Dynamic, and it changes over time so its a good thing, work on your mixing (yes I know it only sounds easy) but still , watch some tutorials and you'll be fine in few months just never give up , its only a matter of time and practice.

cpdwane - cool, atmospheric and I love the bass work, I have no advices for you sir either.

here is my tune for feedback, I think that the first half ist catchy and isnt comprehensible at all, but the second part after drum fill is a bit better , what do you people say ?

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[BaasDNB]

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youre right it is subjective, but I think I've said a few times now that its about the quality of production and NOTHING to do with tastes. Try to read next time.
So many idiots try to make this same line of point so let me make an analogy for you:
What your saying is that we should treat this
as equal to this
hey HEY! dont tell the scrible artist he sucks cause he put all his heart and soul into it!!!

If you actually had a halfway decent sound I might give your criticism a little merrit.

@Burgeamon
Production quality is top notch.. everything is clear, punches through. Good progression and variation. I would try running your synth through some different distortions/parallel processing to get a more crunchy warm sound but thats about it. Maybe do some equing/tightening of the lows too.

[johnkimble]

pfllool you still keep on going
little eric-nicholas go to bed now
basically what youre trying to say
'if u dont rate things the way i like to cus
im the one that is a serious master critic of anything and will not accept failure
then u are a idiot'

easy there


why you care so much

[Darj]

@Burgeamon : Not my cup of tea, but it's very well produced. Nothing to say on that. Sounds really good.

@D-ROD : Your intro is a bit boring, try to add a few elements like pads, hats, or anything else that could give a bit of life on that. Your drums sounds a bit weak, compression and EQ could help. Try adding a bit more reverb on hats, and maybe a bit of distortion could help a bit. Same for your synth, more distortion, but be careful, not too much

@Baasdnb : The track Hookah is not too bad, Your snare/rim is a bit low in the mix, try to make it a bit more crispy ( try parallel distortion on the high frequencies only, just sayin' ). The pads are not too bad, but it could be better with more movement. Add a bit more breaks on your drums or on your bass, try to keep your listeners attention with more one shots samples.


Here's mine Soundcloud

[lightshapers]

posted this a few months back, now up as a free dl via the elektroshok records page
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peeeeas
James

[BaasDNB]

Here's mine Soundcloud

very cool atmosphere and solid production. reminds me of the track sujo. I would personally turn down that first shaker/hats decay time and add in more super echoey/ring out delayed voices/fx sounds throughout the chorus. maybe around 50 seconds, cut out the drums with some echo/delay and make some kind of gentle sweep to add more buildup to make that drop hit harder. maybe throw in a synth line that accentuates the vibe there too.

[ParaTroXic]

Reversed - I like it man, for a nice vibe. Took me a while to find some constructive criticism, hwoever like Black said - perhaps cut down the limiting/compression for this track, as it has that old dubstep feel, rather than the 'in your face' brostep stuff. NIce.

Black - Erm, I think your midrange sounds need some more sub in it. Perhaps using different mid range sounds too, as they sound abit weak, soz. U know how to make good melodies thou however.


@Turnipish - Nice, liking the drums, nice structure, Very Nice. Good melodies, perhaps work on the eqing, to get everything to sound really clear. This is the kind of track, where you want amazing equing and panning, as it is very atmospheric.

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This is my Drumstep WIP, it has only the drop, so theres nothing before or after it. Pretty basic atm.

[Ballin]

Already posted 2 other feedback without a track earlier.

@ParaTroXic

I like it! The whoosh glass breaking sample at around :04 sounds a little loud throughout the mix. If you finish this I would definitely download, its pretty sick. Bass sounds really well mixed too me, it flows good, just some of those samples sound a little outside the mix.

Here's a track from a couple years ago for shits and giggles. Its a bad mix but I kinda like how it sounds, should I revisit it?

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[antman]

@Ballin: Nice intro and party feeling track. Needs a serious revisit, mix needs to be MUCH cleare, and than I think we can take it from there once its a bit cleaner.

@Paratroxic: Fuck thats nasty as hell LOL. Nothing really wrong with it for now. Throw an intro on and lets see if we can find anything wrong!

@Darj: Nice low end in there. Really cool atmosphere, nothing to complain about. Really smooth sounds.

Heres mine. Let me know what you guys think. Trying to be a bit more melodic but still a little gritty?

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[BaasDNB]

@Paratroxic Umm, thats not even drumstep. Also, I have no idea what the other guy is saying.. it sounds absolutely terrible.Someone would have to be on a lot of ex to actually enjoy this.

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The drop is good. You got that older dubstep grime sound going real well there. The flute synth though? its out of tune with the bass and sounds cheesy. At least tune it if your gonna keep it in. Some good samples with a few pads would work better

[ParaTroXic]

BaasDNB - Ohh , o well, it didn't take me long to make, what genre do you think it is. I thought Drumstep was like 170bpm but with half-drums, I don't know tbh. Do you have any constructive criticism?

I had a listen to your track too. Regardless of the previous disputes, I think it's pretty decent. However it is a little simplistic to my liking. The mixdown needs a little bit more help, however its is OKAY. Compared to others who puts out quality productions similar to your kind of bass sounds, It's not quite there in terms of production quality - i.e mixdown knowledge/eq/compression/layering , however, keep going at it, and I'm sure you'll get there. Also in your Hookah track, you should make the snare a little bit louder. In your shrapnel track, I believe the drums need to be a lot stronger and complex, especially your hi hats (add some reverb and eq the lows a lil more) , there needs to be MORE. Likewise, it is very repetitive. Although I can see some quality in your productions, I am very surprised that someone who seems to know so much about music theory, compression, and limiting etc - has left little to no dynamics especially when there is not much going on - i.e no midrange. Listen to Antmans, WIP. Lastly, You need to work more on your synthesis, your reese can sound a lot better in my opinion. You can probs find some tutorials on it later, however your track does have a lot of sub which is good.

Finnaly, considering that your name is DNB - I was expecting something a little harder more complex

None the less, I do see a niche which may enjoy your music.

Btw, DNB can you have a look at this?

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Perhaps some feedback on mixdown etc, cheers.

[cmgoodman1226]

Here's a dnb track im working on. Obviously needs a lot of work still but its getting closer. [soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/asailum/shrapnel[/soundcloud

where to begin. The DNB track is beyond salvage. You have these 80's esque realistic sounding snare kick and then fake sounding hats? That hat rithym gets old really quickly. Then you bring in that variation that sounds like 808's. None of the drums go together. The midrange sounds like a bucket of mud. the melody sounds to be just folley sounds with obnoxious resonancies. The only thing I like is the pad in the beginning. I'd keep that and trash the rest.

[Eye_siC]

antman- i always like your tunes man, you consistently capture a nice clear vibe. mixdowns are always right. your drums seemed a bit dry to me. and the kick seemed to lack punch but thats just on my monitors =P

ballin- the clangy sounds in the intro hurt my ears just a little bit. i do like the ideas the drop has a nice flow to it. i really dig the beat, reminds me of excisions electro stuff.
i thought the melody was cool and you used it well but i wouldve switched it up more in a section. i like the little build up with the lead in it, i appreciate some musical knowledge.

paratroxic- i like the skippy vibe of the tune but the sounds were a bit much and didnt really sound equed at all =/ cool ideas just a little hard on the ears imo.

darj- already bouncing to your tune 15 seconds in xD, nice break and the drop is nice and subtle. tasty percussion and note choice. i would maybe lower the volume of the first cymbals that play. the progression with the cymbals is great. this groove is banging man. over all a really tight airy tune man, really loved the vibes.

alright, here is my newest tune. tried to keep it DUBSTEP
but i definitely put my own spin on it, let me know what you think
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[BaasDNB]

BaasDNB - Ohh , o well, it didn't take me long to make, what genre do you think it is. I thought Drumstep was like 170bpm but with half-drums, I don't know tbh. Do you have any constructive criticism?

I had a listen to your track too. Regardless of the previous disputes, I think it's pretty decent. However it is a little simplistic to my liking. The mixdown needs a little bit more help, however its is OKAY. Compared to others who puts out quality productions similar to your kind of bass sounds, It's not quite there in terms of production quality - i.e mixdown knowledge/eq/compression/layering , however, keep going at it, and I'm sure you'll get there. Also in your Hookah track, you should make the snare a little bit louder. In your shrapnel track, I believe the drums need to be a lot stronger and complex, especially your hi hats (add some reverb and eq the lows a lil more) , there needs to be MORE. Likewise, it is very repetitive. Although I can see some quality in your productions, I am very surprised that someone who seems to know so much about music theory, compression, and limiting etc - has left little to no dynamics especially when there is not much going on - i.e no midrange. Listen to Antmans, WIP. Lastly, You need to work more on your synthesis, your reese can sound a lot better in my opinion. You can probs find some tutorials on it later, however your track does have a lot of sub which is good.

Finnaly, considering that your name is DNB - I was expecting something a little harder more complex

None the less, I do see a niche which may enjoy your music.

Btw, DNB can you have a look at this?

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Perhaps some feedback on mixdown etc, cheers.

Well the DNB im into is more minimal. Guys like Loxy, Decimal Bass, Heavy1 etc. I'm trying to go for a sound like this :

I agree with you though on a few things. The drums are definitely lacking and there is pretty much zero dynamics. I'm pretty happy with the sound of the bass although it can be cleaned up a little with some equing. As for no midrange? There is a load more low - midrange in my tune than in yours, almost too much in fact ... not like this is a competition but I have no idea how you could say that after listening to both.

As for drumstep, Its supposed to feel upbeat like dnb just the kick and snare are half speed. Listen to the background in this tune around 1:15and youll see what I mean Right now you just have a beat at 85ish bpm. If you dropped in a fast break at say, 13 seconds in your clip with fast little hat shuffles going it would make all the difference. Your clip as is would be a breakdown section of a drumstep tune.

For your other tunes mixdown.. the kick is drowned by your sub. The highs are also too loud and you could try doing some parallel processing on them with extreme compression if turning them down seems to lose them too much. Lower mids could use some boosting, and in general all your warbles, wobs, etc all are shrill and sound thin. Try layering them with some lower mid range stuff and also mess with good distortion plugins like soundtoys or trash.

[Kongret]

@Eye-siC
Everything sounds really tight and dungeon-esq, awesome percussion. I am not so sure about the bzhhh sound which starts at around 1:03 seems kinda out of place imo. Nothing else to say, really.

@antman
Too much pauses, starts to feel really overused very fast. Nice flute sound, maybe try to develop your melodies instead of repeating same pattern? Something pad-esq would unite sounds a bit more mb.

@Ballin
Sounds like hell Maybe add some glitch and insane breakcore stuff to achieve even more insanity? You know http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... pnA#t=150s

@ParaTroXic
It actually sounds more like a build/intro to the drop, but not the drop itself. It sounds nice though, but i think that drops needs more groove and energy and stuff. Snare has no punch, make it louder, push 200 hz and all that stuff.

My latest W.I.P. it's heavy metal-esq drumstep with ambienty breakdown-intro. Rough mix.
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