The Defenition of Dubstep

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:41 pm

Dept of Hell Science wrote:It's all about hype good, bad or indifferent

This is at the core of the personae you've projected on this forum as both Dubmugga and Dept of Hell Science. It's not in line with what this forum is about. This isn't the Dubstep Megalomaniac Forum.

There's not one other person or artist on this board that has consistantly diverted topic after topic into a Dept of Hell Science Promotions/ "I'm from New Zealand" rant. It's so counter-productive to the promotion of your music. I wish you'd see that.

luke.envoy · Post by **luke.envoy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:06 am

seckle wrote:
Dept of Hell Science wrote:It's all about hype good, bad or indifferent
This is at the core of the personae you've projected on this forum as both Dubmugga and Dept of Hell Science. It's not in line with what this forum is about. This isn't the Dubstep Megalomaniac Forum.

There's not one other person or artist on this board that has consistantly diverted topic after topic into a Dept of Hell Science Promotions/ "I'm from New Zealand" rant. It's so counter-productive to the promotion of your music. I wish you'd see that.

yeh init

dubmugga you fuck up every musical debate, and you still linger round begging friend even after you were banned for being out of line on several occasions.
learn some respect and show some humility

stop provoking people and creating arguments with your massive ego, everyone else seems to get along fine

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:18 am

Seckle...

is this forum not about the promotion/hype and spread of the musical virus that is dubstep and isn't that what i'm doing from a uniquely personal perspective ???

if not then whats with all the gig, radio shows, tunes, release and mixes threads ???

if it's all about the music then just listen to our shit without prejudice but if it's all about personalities affecting how you hear music then you got a problem...

...i wouldn't expect anyone to consistently divert topics into a promotional exercise for us here in NZ I can do that very well on my own

lets face it it's not what i say it's how i say it...innit

irrepressible, irreverent but mostly informed

...so let's say i did see what i'm doing and know the consequences, would that make people like our tunes more, buy them or play them out

don't know, don't care cos having our shit played out by DJ X prolly wont make any difference to sales if no one knows who the tune is by anyway and we aren't looking to do vinyl or handout dubs. We'll give shit away and post it on sites for everyone to buy, no elitism, no hierarchy, no kissing arse, no net stream chatroom bullshit, no my space, no blog...

...we have a philosophy to abide by and a social experiment to conduct if it fails then so be it cos it's about time somone tried something different

there is so much more to my philosophy that can be dreamt of in your world...

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:31 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:Seckle...

is this forum not about the promotion/hype and spread of the musical virus that is dubstep and isn't that what i'm doing from a uniquely personal perspective ???

if not then whats with all the gig, radio shows, tunes, release and mixes threads ???

if it's all about the music then just listen to our shit without prejudice but if it's all about personalities affecting how you hear music then you got a problem...

...i wouldn't expect anyone to consistently divert topics into a promotional exercise for us here in NZ I can do that very well on my own

lets face it it's not what i say it's how i say it...innit

irrepressible, irreverent but mostly informed

...so let's say i did see what i'm doing and know the consequences, would that make people like our tunes more, buy them or play them out

don't know, don't care cos having our shit played out by DJ X prolly wont make any difference to sales if no one knows who the tune is by anyway and we aren't looking to do vinyl or handout dubs. We'll give shit away and post it on sites for everyone to buy, no elitism, no hierarchy, no kissing arse, no net stream chatroom bullshit, no my space, no blog...

...we have a philosophy to abide by and a social experiment to conduct if it fails then so be it cos it's about time somone tried something different

there is so much more to my philosophy that can be dreamt of in your world...

I'm all for promotions and generally spreading info, but not when it's laced with net trolling. Classic net trolling is diverting topics for your own needs. 75% of your thread replies include Hell Science ...."we"..."our"..."my"....etc etc. The other 25%, albeit rare occasions that you do discuss something without refering to Hell Science/Yourself, is great. I'm sure the rest of the forum would like to see more of the latter and less of the former. It's not that difficult to speak without referencing yourself. Try it.

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:33 am

provoking people creating arguments is your spin luke

mine is intelligent debate and drawing honest reponses from people but if you call menames then I'm gonna call you some too fair enough ???

I've never begged for nothing especially friends

I know more about respect and humility than you ever will

and yes everyone else does seem to get along fine with me as long as we all abide by the same rules

what's your problem ??? if you just wanna have a go at me and make bullshit accusations without backing them up then go for it if it makes you feel better as long as I have the right of reply

you've called me a liar, a beat jacker, a racist and a bastard without an iota of proof. You're the one whos outta line son !!!

now heres some advice for you stick to what you do best and that is making phat beats and don't bother trying to intellectualise with me cos you're not in my league and you just come off looking foolish

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:48 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:I know more about respect and humility than you ever will

LOL... look at this statement... I mean really...

"I AM MORE HUMBLE THAN YOU WILL EVER BE... I AM THE *MOST* HUMBLE"

Humility is recognizing that you don't know shit. And I'd say that most of us aren't able to admit that--including me

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:51 am

I understand that seckle...

...but I can't and don't have the authority to speak for or on anybodies behalf but our/my own so everything I say is personalised and i just can't do that without giving some sort of reference to how we/I think and feel from personal experience

75% of the time I'm not repping who I really am 25 % of the time I am...

...i find with net trolling it's a 2way thing lets take JJ and jiggyfly my 2 biggest fans, even Mr envoy

am I supposed to just sitback and STFU and be the better man for it ???

will that make people listen to our music without prejudice ???

and how will that affect me and what I do in real time/life ???

truth is this place gets real boring real fast if it's just all big up the tunes and who's doing what

I can't talk politics, race, culture, sex or probably religion yet life is so much more than just music but it's not reflected here making this virtual space a pale imitation of the world and the entitites which inhabit it mere empty shells...

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:55 am

auralassassin wrote:
Dept of Hell Science wrote:I know more about respect and humility than you ever will
LOL... look at this statement... I mean really...

"I AM MORE HUMBLE THAN YOU WILL EVER BE... I AM THE *MOST* HUMBLE"

Humility is recognizing that you don't know shit. And I'd say that most of us aren't able to admit that--including me

I said iknow more about it not that I practise it on line...

...read what's there not what you think is there

if I don't say it i don't mean it...

...humility is knowing your place in the genreal scheme of things and in that i know we are nothing more than a spawn on a bit of cosmic dust

truth is I do know shit, lots of shit so what do you expect if i talk it a lot

pull me up on the specifics and lets discuss it...

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:01 am

fuck it this has turned into another one of those typical dubmugga type threads hasn't it...

...I kinda hoped he'd stay dead, why ressurect him ???

let's just stay on topic yeah and leave him out of it...

...i really do have better things to do than defend him or what we do

moldy · Post by **moldy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:14 am

This thread is a wash.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:34 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:fuck it this has turned into another one of those typical dubmugga type threads hasn't it...

...I kinda hoped he'd stay dead, why ressurect him ???

let's just stay on topic yeah and leave him out of it...

...i really do have better things to do than defend him or what we do

It's not a court case man....I'm just trying to point out something to you to think about.

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:41 am

duly noted Seckle, cheers and thanx

...for what it's worth, the next batch of tunes are even better than the last batch of which you a few may only have heard Alimentarius and Getto on the "ratz inn amaze"

...and now back to your regularly scheduled broadcast

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:47 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:duly noted Seckle, cheers and thanx

...for what it's worth, the next batch of tunes are even better than the last batch of which you a few may only have heard Alimentarius and Getto on the "ratz inn amaze"

...and now back to your regularly scheduled broadcast

No worries.

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:52 am

dubmugga wrote:.i find with net trolling it's a 2way thing lets take JJ and jiggyfly my 2 biggest fans, even Mr envoy .

NAH BRO ...i jus think ur a dick.

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:08 am

^^^see what I mean...

...lets do the tango JJ, I'll lead and supply the beats

you can be my bitch...

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/1200461-02.htm

clashcame · Post by **clashcame** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:08 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:
...i really do have better things to do than defend him or what we do

what do you do?

sold · Post by **sold** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:14 am

http://www.tempa.co.uk/tunes/signofthedub.asx

Listen...
Dubstep...
save the anger for the grime scene

der mac · Post by **der mac** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:45 am

I think D-step fits to our Time.

I don`t like this Word, Dubstep. or Jungle or Breakcore or Neuro. I`m not fixed in one Sound. I think it`s only about the Speed of the Music. There are so many Influences from everywhere. Lets do a grimey (sorry) dubby Soul Tune or a dubby Jump Up Rave Tune or with Toasting. Everything is possible. The DJ`s do the Tension and present their style.

(I like it ruff in the meantime, Wobble, Sirens, Gunshots, Toasting)

Greetz Der MAC

anyway, bla bla.

sold · Post by **sold** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:53 am

DUBSTEP.
EQUALS
http://www.tempa.co.uk/tunes/highland%20spring.wma

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