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The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by RVGE » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:36 pm

Let's discuss all things glitch-hop. How do I sequence drums for glitch-hop? What are your suggestions for synthesis in glitch-hop? What do you do to get those KOAN sound drums? Who are your favourite producers in the genres?

I want this thread to be a place where anyone and everyone can ask questions about the genre! :U:

(I hope there's no other threads like this for Glitch-hop, I couldn't find any)
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Post by Samuel_L_Damnson » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:46 pm

I have always wanted to get this incredibly raw sound

Easier said than done, I know it involves using outboard gear and adding saturation to things but the overall way he has mixed it seems to be where the overall gritty warmness comes from :)
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Re: The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by RVGE » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:51 pm

Sinestepper wrote: Easier said than done, I know it involves using outboard gear and adding saturation to things but the overall way he has mixed it seems to be where the overall gritty warmness comes from :)
Wow I love it! You know, I was speaking to one of my music tech tutors and he talked about a lot of producers these days exporting their music to tape then reimporting it into digital for that natural warmth.
Though, my other tutor swears by a Waves plugin that adds tape warmth! He puts it on EVERYTHING! Worth a try!
The natural humanization of that track is fantastic too.
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Post by wub » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:45 pm

RVGE wrote:(I hope there's no other threads like this for Glitch-hop, I couldn't find any)
http://www.dubstepforum.com/search.php? ... mit=Search

Other than these.

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Re: The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by RVGE » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:50 pm

wub wrote:
RVGE wrote:(I hope there's no other threads like this for Glitch-hop, I couldn't find any)
http://www.dubstepforum.com/search.php? ... mit=Search

Other than these.
Yeah, I did actually manage to search 'glitch' - thanks anyway...
None of those really discuss it, some talk about sound design. None really discuss it as a whole. Which is what I wanted to do here.
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Post by claudedefaren » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:08 pm

Have you had a look at glitchhopforum.com ? lots of really smart guys over there, very chill. the producer q&as have some real pearls of wisdom, especially nastynastys :)

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Post by RVGE » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:17 pm

claudedefaren wrote:Have you had a look at glitchhopforum.com ? lots of really smart guys over there, very chill. the producer q&as have some real pearls of wisdom, especially nastynastys :)
Yeah, I had a quick look, those artist Q&As are fantastic.
I just thought that a discussion on what makes the quite new genre that is glitch-hop so interesting would be fun!
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Re: The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by wub » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:21 pm

wub wrote:
Producing glitch hop? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=259075
Shuffly flowing Glitch hop drums - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=248065
Glitch Hop Help - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=242052
getting that complex glitch style. - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=223791
PantyRaid/Glitch Mob/eDIT glitch sound - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=199936
The Glitch Mob record sounds amazing. - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=143534
Glitch Sound Techniques - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=113404
Anyone Produce Glitch Hop Type Stuff - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76130

Those might be a good starting point.

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Post by claudedefaren » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:25 pm

Technically, glitch hop is about as new as dubstep :) personally i would call koan sound "neuro funk" but hey a rose by another name.. have you heard of Prefuse 73? Thats what got me into "glitch hop" before it was really even called that. Good stuff.

Anyway, I'm down to chat glitch hop production.. but ive really only ever made neuro funky glitch hop like koan sound, not the traditional stuff. Personally, what makes it interesting to me is the percussion and sense of space. Have a listen to Djrmba Djemba or Mr Carmack (soundcloud search themh, they are SUPER good. Most of the kids on team supreme make really interesting stuff.

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Post by RVGE » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:36 pm

claudedefaren wrote:Technically, glitch hop is about as new as dubstep :) personally i would call koan sound "neuro funk" but hey a rose by another name.. have you heard of Prefuse 73? Thats what got me into "glitch hop" before it was really even called that. Good stuff.

Anyway, I'm down to chat glitch hop production.. but ive really only ever made neuro funky glitch hop like koan sound, not the traditional stuff. Personally, what makes it interesting to me is the percussion and sense of space. Have a listen to Djrmba Djemba or Mr Carmack (soundcloud search themh, they are SUPER good. Most of the kids on team supreme make really interesting stuff.
I guess I meant glitch hop as the wide umbrella genre that it is vastly becoming! Neuro hop, funk house or groove house or whatever that's being called.

I love Prefuse 73 - Rain and Choking You! Great songs.
Their stuff is still pretty top!
I need loads of suggestions for glitch/neuro hop artists! I love the genre but I haven't really explored it much.
Obviously KOAN sound stick out, amazing production. Savant are also catching my eye! Again, on the neuro side. Interesting stuff arising from Savant, have you heard?

and @wub - I did read through most of those, they have some nice tips but I wanted this thread to be more of a relaxed discussion about why you like glitch-hop and what artists, as well as just a discussion about producing it - which is fine to do too. Some appreciation instead of just production! I also looked on neurohop but that has like 100 members, it'd be hard to create a discussion I'm sure! :w:
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Post by dickman69 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:38 pm

this is the production forum lol

edit, o i guess snh doesnt say "hip hop" anymore so w/e
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Re: The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by RVGE » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:43 pm

rayman612 wrote:this is the production forum lol

edit, o i guess snh doesnt say "hip hop" anymore so w/e
yeah, I wanted this thread to be half appreciation and half production ideas/concepts/discussion/tips.

If a mod feels it should be in general feel free to move it :)
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Re: The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by hhans » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:34 am

As far as KOAN Sound's drums go, I've found transient shapers are often the key to getting that little extra punch that their snares do. I use NI's Transient Master or Shaack Audio's transient shaper.

I doubt KOAN Sound does this, but has anyone else tried doing all the drums/percussion on a single audio track? Obviously you'd separate it out later for mixing and stuff but I've found that restricting myself to one audio track (at least initially) for glitch hop style drums can yield some interesting and different results.

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Post by RVGE » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:12 pm

hhans wrote:As far as KOAN Sound's drums go, I've found transient shapers are often the key to getting that little extra punch that their snares do. I use NI's Transient Master or Shaack Audio's transient shaper.

I doubt KOAN Sound does this, but has anyone else tried doing all the drums/percussion on a single audio track? Obviously you'd separate it out later for mixing and stuff but I've found that restricting myself to one audio track (at least initially) for glitch hop style drums can yield some interesting and different results.
Transient Master? I've heard of that, I have bought the Komplete 8 bundle but not the Ultimate. :( I often use Logic's built in Enveloper just to boost the attack and take out some tail of my kick and snare. Also, in their song Sly Fox there's a moment when the snare is completely isolated. I cut it out of the song and saved it as a sample. I don't use it - just listen more intently to it etc. I can upload it if people want it for whatever purpose. :Q:
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Post by sunny_b_uk » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:29 pm

shouldn't this be called the neuro hop thread? i love both glitch hop and neuro hop but this thread definitely isnt about glitch. there isnt really much glitching in neuro hop its just neuro basses with loud drums :D
anyway to contribute to the thread, i find boosting the crap out of around 200hz on a snare and clipping the master plenty (then record and place it back in the project again) will give you those KOANy snares. also clipping through plugins like satsonCM will work or simply just distorting can do wonders as well. lastly careful EQing & layering with other clean drum hits is essential.

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Re: The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by hhans » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:50 pm

RVGE wrote: Transient Master? I've heard of that, I have bought the Komplete 8 bundle but not the Ultimate. :( I often use Logic's built in Enveloper just to boost the attack and take out some tail of my kick and snare. Also, in their song Sly Fox there's a moment when the snare is completely isolated. I cut it out of the song and saved it as a sample. I don't use it - just listen more intently to it etc. I can upload it if people want it for whatever purpose. :Q:
As far as I know the enveloper is pretty much the same thing. Yeah, I did the same thing with a snare from Meanwhile, In The Future. Also willing to upload if anyone wants it.

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Post by RVGE » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:52 pm

sunny_b_uk wrote:shouldn't this be called the neuro hop thread? i love both glitch hop and neuro hop but this thread definitely isnt about glitch. there isnt really much glitching in neuro hop its just neuro basses with loud drums :D
anyway to contribute to the thread, i find boosting the crap out of around 200hz on a snare and clipping the master plenty (then record and place it back in the project again) will give you those KOANy snares. also clipping through plugins like satsonCM will work or simply just distorting can do wonders as well. lastly careful EQing & layering with other clean drum hits is essential.
I'd never thought about layering distorted drums with clean analog samples! Sick idea. Like a NY compression but with distorted drums instead of compression :P
and I named it the glitch hop thread so people could post about any subgenres under glitch hop, which kinda includes neuro hop
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Re: The Glitch-Hop Thread

Post by claudedefaren » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:08 pm

if either of you would be so good as to pussy those samples of the isolated snare drums, that would be greatx

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Post by RVGE » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:53 pm

claudedefaren wrote:if either of you would be so good as to pussy those samples of the isolated snare drums, that would be greatx
Here's the link to the one I cut - http://www.mediafire.com/?iezejtqdzebnxsw
It's ripped from an MP3 so it's not great.
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