Horrible/Amazing drug experiences

[joeki]

no matter what gwa says, coke is poison. Too right about the short tempered ness. I had a good mate go really dodgy and unpredictable on me for sniffing coke on the toilet of the pub on regular Friday's and Saturday's out. At this moment, often can't tell if he wants to bash my head in or just have a normal convo.

[gwa]

down to the user not the drug. your mate needs counselling

[joeki]

^^ good point to be fair. He's had a difficult childhood. He's black though was born here and is really just Belgian. But Had to deal with some racism in his youth and it's as though that feeling often comes out when he's on coke.

[nousd]

"Don't rush to be grown... drive slow, homie...."

I mean that's really scary so I guess I have to be careful, but the question is, will occasional use fuck me up long term?

I really like how they make me feel, I find the feelings, thoughts, and experiences that I encounter when I'm on them to be amazing, and the shared experience of doing them with friends is really fun. I don't know why I'm so attracted to these substances, but I am and I really would rather not have to wait until I'm 20 or so to experiment with them

It's not even about rushing to grow up for me, I love being a kid. I just think these drugs and the experiences they give you are amazing and I guess I'm just sort of impatient? I don't know. I guess now I've opened the door and it's difficult to close it, knowing what they're like

Can someone wiser and more responsible than me please pull Sonika the fuck up on that last post.

I'll try.

Here's the problem Soriika.
Your male brain does not fully develop until 18/19
&, in some learning capacities, until you're in your mid 20s.
By introducing drugs before that development has been completed
you are, more than likely, inhibiting the evolution of a electro-chemical capacity to process reality.

You are distorting your perceptions without first constructing a resilient internal model.

That may be argued as being a good thing by some people,
who are intent on using drugs to break down habitual patterns and perceptual conditioning
but, in my experience, it is safer and easier to create an organizing paradigm first.
Otherwise there is no inbuilt reference belief system, tested by experience,
to anchor the psychedelic drift,

particularly if everything grows hollow and disappears.
which is far more traumatic than any scarey monster that you could imagine.

Until it happens, nobody can conceive of what this loss of identity is like
(that's why some people become alienated from the everyday and some go crazy)
but, the point is, at your stage of development
you don't have the tools to recover or reconstruct it....
an intact, wholesome integrated set of id/ego/superego.

Personally, I was lucky to intuit this in adolescence
and practised several forms of meditation/contemplation (religion, TM, zen, magic, reading) in my latter teens
which meant that I knew a lot about my personality and thinking patterns before starting drugs at 20.

I'm suggesting you put the drug experience on the backburner
and seek some less-hazardous experiences and skills that prepare you for transformation.
...things that test your physical courage or more gently explore your inhibitions.

If you find that you can't or don't want to
then you are already dealing with addiction.

[garethom]

sd5 with my eyes I read the words they make no sense, but my brain can see your true meaning <3

[jorge]

I'll try.

Here's the problem Soriika.
Your male brain does not fully develop until 18/19
&, in some learning capacities, until you're in your mid 20s.
By introducing drugs before that development has been completed
you are, more than likely, inhibiting the evolution of a electro-chemical capacity to process reality.

You are distorting your perceptions without first constructing a resilient internal model.

That may be argued as being a good thing by some people,
who are intent on using drugs to break down habitual patterns and perceptual conditioning
but, in my experience, it is safer and easier to create an organizing paradigm first.
Otherwise there is no inbuilt reference belief system, tested by experience,
to anchor the psychedelic drift,

particularly if everything grows hollow and disappears.
which is far more traumatic than any scarey monster that you could imagine.

Until it happens, nobody can conceive of what this loss of identity is like
(that's why some people become alienated from the everyday and some go crazy)
but, the point is, at your stage of development
you don't have the tools to recover or reconstruct it....
an intact, wholesome integrated set of id/ego/superego.

Personally, I was lucky to intuit this in adolescence
and practised several forms of meditation/contemplation (religion, TM, zen, magic, reading) in my latter teens
which meant that I knew a lot about my personality and thinking patterns before starting drugs at 20.

I'm suggesting you put the drug experience on the backburner
and seek some less-hazardous experiences and skills that prepare you for transformation.
...things that test your physical courage or more gently explore your inhibitions.

If you find that you can't or don't want to
then you are already dealing with addiction.

Wow, I think your eloquence proves your point here and my lack of eloquence is probably indicative of my choices as a youngster.

I wish someone had put it like this when I was 14. Drug advice at school probably encouraged me to experiment more, they made it sound so fun.

[ezza]

Drug advice at school probably encouraged me to experiment more, they made it sound so fun.

haha this

talk to frank aswell, always use to go on about that in school

http://www.talktofrank.com/drugs-a-z

where i found out about all the drugs i wanted to buy

[unwind]

I always remember getting talks about smoking in primary school.
"I am never going to smoke" was a line that me and my friends said with so much confidence...

Its amazing how peer pressure alters your perceptions.

[Muncey]

Drug advice at school probably encouraged me to experiment more, they made it sound so fun.

I remember at school they got a smack head in to talk about crystal meth. It was literally a druggie talking over a 'faces of meth' video. Kids aren't gunna go 'oh my god look what it does to you' they're gunna go 'har har your face looks like my balls'.

[ezza]

I always remember getting talks about smoking in primary school.
"I am never going to smoke" was a line that me and my friends said with so much confidence...

Its amazing how peer pressure alters your perceptions.

i hated smoking so bad for the first month haha

if i only i knew then its not cool and its gonna cost u bare moneys

[teamhobson]

Will be possibly moving to Bristol quite soon. Will have to Jam and have a voyage or 2 Kochari (and any other multi-dimensional ninjas)

Managed to put a lighter in teamhobson's pocket from the other side of the room (mate you should have seen your face)

Cheers for my first signiture by the way mate, your stories are too much!

[abelard]

The real question for sonika is whether he's worried that in 6 months he's completely changed his personality to match his misinterpretation of a very small subculture niche in south london, yet is also convinced he knows more about everything than the adults he's immitating.

[Mason]

[Sonika]

Weren't you in some ivy league school though? Drugs not a good plan man.

yeah I do go to prep school, not really sure how that's relevant? plenty of kids do drugs here

The real question for sonika is whether he's worried that in 6 months he's completely changed his personality to match his misinterpretation of a very small subculture niche in south london, yet is also convinced he knows more about everything than the adults he's immitating.

lol dude are you obsessed with me, literally the only time I've ever seen you post is you going at me

Please show me a post when I said I know more than the posters here

You're probably right about my personality changing a little bit - I've been very involved in the scene because I like the culture and the music - obviously I will have changed because of that presence in my life

fuck off.

[Sonika]

sd5 that was very poetic but I'm not really sure what you're saying, maybe I'm just not smart enough

Be wary of letting it consume your personality though... thats what i did. I was a wikipedia drug nerd/poly-drug addict...

heh sounds a bit like me

fascination i think is a better word than obsession

[mIrReN]

[Sonika]

shit storm income

[particle-jim]

sd5 that was very poetic but I'm not really sure what you're saying, maybe I'm just not smart enough

All he's saying is don't fuck your brain up before your brain is fully developed because you could cause lasting and irreversible damage

I'm certain the fact that i've been smoking weed regularly since i was 13 (I'm now 23) has fucked me up and is one of the main reasons behind my depression/anxiety issues

[gwa]

Weren't you in some ivy league school though? Drugs not a good plan man.

yeah I do go to prep school, not really sure how that's relevant? plenty of kids do drugs here

The real question for sonika is whether he's worried that in 6 months he's completely changed his personality to match his misinterpretation of a very small subculture niche in south london, yet is also convinced he knows more about everything than the adults he's immitating.

lol dude are you obsessed with me, literally the only time I've ever seen you post is you going at me

Please show me a post when I said I know more than the posters here

You're probably right about my personality changing a little bit - I've been very involved in the scene because I like the culture and the music - obviously I will have changed because of that presence in my life

fuck off.

tell me soni2kool4skool

what exactly have you contributed to the scene apart from your parents buying you a few records for christmas?

[gwa]

some one please make a meme that says

POSTS ON DSF

ROLLS DEEP WITH MEDI