DIGITAL MYSTIKZ SPIRITUAL SOUND

[etch]

[quote="Dept of Hell Science"]^^^don't you mean jungle...

na dnb, more photek hidden camera/ltj bukem/early ed rush and dj krust stuff i guess.

[dept of hell science]

cheers G-Angel...

used to run with a few 12 tribes, loved to reason with them and purify the temple with kaneh bosm but HIM is like... hmmmmmmm

I'm more of a deist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

...hence the first cause last effect

and the belief that the act of creation especially in art brings us closer to the divine...

...but if you can fuck with peoples heads and adhere to a strict philosophy as well then you can lead people on a journey whether they want to go or not

be not afraid

nothing is perfect
in the space where nothing exists
will one find perfection
the perfect nothing

accept nothing as fact
question everything
determine your own truth
define your own reality

be your own messiah

I wrote that quite a while ago and it gets me though each day cos it's an ongoing self feedback loop striving towards the unattainable the proof of which i might only know in death

this is my spiritual image...

...we haven't got around to making spiritual music yet cos that's not what HELL_SD is about, we're about coldbass. Our next incarnation will be all about it though, believe

We're hoping it'll be our legacy...

...its just the timings not right and the way of the warrior priest says it's all about ruthless intent and impeccable timing

...sorry UFO too many words again eh ???

and yeah etch, I can get with the LTJ photek and ed rush stuff, to my mind they're original junglists...

..bludclot artattack an all that good stuff

[twenty3]

Really enjoying this thread. Thought I would throw my two cents in.

It's a bit of a hypnotic trick isn't it. Those off kilter beats messing with your previous concepts of rhythm, those occasional moments of pregnant beat absence, the space left were a beat is expected resonating deeper than if it was there and just as your head starts to suss out these next step rhythms, just as patterns begin to emerge from seeming chaos your hit with that thick rush of bass. Lost in the dark, in a place like FWD>> your eyes loose focus and your ears runs red, the bass invades your body through your muscles as well as your ears, rattling at your nervous system and constantly keeping you off guard and nearly off balance in a state of blissful confusion, lulling you gently but against your will into a meditative state of mind.

But this was true for a lot of early Jungle from my perspective. What sets this sound apart for me is the importance placed on negative space, it may at times be laced with crackle or distant white noise but this near sonic void present in DMZ, Loefah, Elemental and many others tracks layers in a cool place to inhabit if only for brief slivers of time and "meditate on bass weight" (the dub version of one hand clapping?) and feel thoughts rather than think them.

If that’s not gnosis than I don’t know what is. But, as several people have pointed out in this thread, you don't need and god or a religion to have a spiritual experience. Its communion with your inner dread, with the dj/producer, with the sound itself and most of all with your fellow dub zombies. Moving without will and skanking without care until its time to slink off home in the blue hours.

[seckle]

Everyone needs to make a trip to DMZ. I didn't quite understand it all until I went to see them in their manor. It's next level bassbin music, inspired by king tubby/coxsone dodd/lee perry. Maybe it'll be 5 years from now for everyone to realize it, but I truely think it's the next frontier in the evolution of reggae. We're in the vortex right now, and we don't always think of it that way.

Just like everyone get's nostalgic about blue era DNB, we'll all be speaking of this time with fondness in a few years. I'm old enough to remember my first trip to metalheadz at bluenote, and it's the exact same experience i felt when going to dmz this last march. Take it all in while you can.

[duck]

great thread.

I reckon there is something spiritual about sound system music for me. What was weirdest about finally making it down to DMZ after years of dub nights was how much it immediately felt like home, even though the music is obviously different... didn't take any time to settle in, you just know the score: here's the stack, now's when you roar for the reload, now's when you can't do anything but smile and give thanks you're alive, IYKWIM.

[grievous_angel]

Yes, I think there's a lot of mileage in seeing dubstep as part of the evolution of reggae -- just as you can see the rest of the 'nuum as part of the evolution of reggae.

But Paul's quotation of my old mucker Marc Bassnationis apposite -- dubstep does draw on all parts of the 'nuum. Which means that lots isn't obviously reggae based -- Vex'd, Hell SD, Mark One etc.

[duck]

no, no , totally agree with you. It's more like it's partly the evolutions of the evolutions of reggae (and other music).

I guess at the end of it, music started out as a spiritual thing anyway.

what seperates us from monkeys innit.

[dept of hell science]

[bze]

Spirituality = high on weed?

..

Of course there's soul and spirituality in every piece of art. If the artist puts himself seriously into the process of creating art, the thoughts and feelings of the artist will reflect from his creation.

I don't see an exception here.

[sheriff]

I dont think people are saying it is an exception. What I am saying is that I really feel it's presence when listening their sound or at a DMZ night. Like someone earlier said once your in there you are instantly feel comfotable. I have been to 3 DMZ's on my own and was made welcome as if you are being invited into their home. Thats' what it is it's a homely feeling away from home. I have been many raves bak in the day awol, innovation, metalheadz. DMZ is a special place and in a different way.
Of course every serious artist puts soul & spirituality into there art but you don't always feel it. and it's not always positive and welcoming.