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Need Help With Wobbles

Post by Warfare Dubstep » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:27 am

Hey everyone, I've been looking for ages trying to find a tutorial to do wobbles on Massive like Truth, LX One, Benga, etc... I don't want the screamish wobbles, not that I'm hating on them, but they just aren't my style at all and youtube is flooded with them. Listen to this podcast by Youngsta, the first tune is by Seven at the 56 second mark, I want that kind of wobble sound in that one, and the majority of tunes in there. I want the UK sound my life is lacking!



I'm really sorry if it's a stupid question, I've been looking all day and night, even at college, but no luck finding anything relevant, and my head is killing me. Any videos, dubstepforum links, web pages, anything that can get me to understand, I'd really appreciate it. I need this done with Massive :)

Thanks for any input!
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Re: Need Help With Wobbles

Post by NinjaEdit » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:16 am

Check the big guide to dubstep sticky (AKA dubstep bible), also Rusko's producer masterclass.

Here's how I've been doing wobbles:

Use a basic synth to get a subbass sine wave. Add another sine an octave up, detuned a little.

Open massive, also triggered by the same MIDI. Get the right octave/detune for your first oscillator. Get a good sound. Set envelope 4.

With oscillators 2 and 3, layer them either the same note, or octaves (n*12 semis) or perfect fifths (n*12 + 7 semis) up. Detune them all, set appropriate volumes, get good sounds.
Add noise and feedback.

Run everything through filter 1. Set it to lowpass 4, with appropriate resonance. Set LFO 5 to the filter cutoff in a positive direction. Set the rate, and move the sinewave to the best position for when the note triggers. Reset amps/other parameters of oscillators as needed.

Add distorion and reverb effects.

Set LFO 5 to amps of oscillators/noise in pos direction, to their fine tunes in neg direction, distortion gain and wet in pos direction. Maybe to reverb wet.

Set oscillator phase position and voicing in the tabs. Add EQ. Try LFOing EQ and any other parameters. Possibly add a highpass after Massive to make room for the subbass.

While listening to the metronome, bounce a note down with different rate settings.

Repaste and retune (with the rate locked, eg with 'warp' enabled in Ableton) portions of these bounces to get your bassline.

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Re: Need Help With Wobbles

Post by Warfare Dubstep » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:15 pm

Thanks!! Would you recommend any videos or picture guided tuts to help me follow this? I'm not that complex into this yet :( Lost it at the fourth paragraph.
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Re: Need Help With Wobbles

Post by NinjaEdit » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:19 am

Try this one? The Massive manual will probably help.


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Re: Need Help With Wobbles

Post by Ledger » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:47 pm

From my intermediate knowledge of Massive, I translated this over to Reason, with the help of Google and Youtube occassionally, of course. :lol: It's actually rather simple to do, but I do agree that it can be confusing at times. :4:
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Re: Need Help With Wobbles

Post by charles1 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:59 pm

honestly the basic principle of making a wobble is pretty much the same in bro and non-bro - a filter cutoff LFO

you can follow the tutorials for bro wobbles, and then just tweak the rest of the parameters to your liking. I would suggest you lower the filter cutoff, use lower octave notes, set your oscillators to lower octaves, etc.

for your LFO, experiment with different waveforms - ie sine, sawtooth, square, triangle, ramp. my personal favorite is saw. also experiment with the rate, the gain, etc.

bro wobbles tend to be fast (1/16 or 1/8) and/or have relatively little automation. they might switch between 1/8, 1/12, 1/16, but they usually don't have long wobbles (ie 2/1, 1/1). benga typically has a straight 1/12 or 1/8. for instance listen to "I Will Never Change", which is 1/12, but switches later to 1/6:



for more "real" dubstep songs, try automating your wobbles in an envelope (not sure if that's the correct terminology) by starting out with a long one (2/1 perhaps) and towards the end of it, abruptly switch to 1/16 or 1/8. this will get you that classic "dubby" sound that you hear in a lot of loefah and distance songs for example. this is a good example by caspa:


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