WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

[MylarHailSatan]

Kind of new to this forum, so I apologize for not critiquing ITT. Check your SC's though, most likely I checked out most of your guys' shit.

Here's my latest: http://soundcloud.com/mylardubz/mylar-limit-break-clip
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I'll keep critiquing! Also, I promise I'll get used to this forum. /mu/ to this is a pretty big transition. ;__;

[MiNoR cOnFuSiOn]

hard to be critical when ive only made 3 dubstep tunes... ah well... ill simply say what id do and hope i dont stomp on someones hard work, i dont mind harsh myself so give what you get and all that


@MylarHailSatan lovin the effects in this, top end sounds lovely.. little too reecy for me tho... maybe bring the attack up a little... bass deffinatly needs a harsher sound/attack on it, maybe bring a reece in at the end? like the bass fades into a sweep then drops off... my terminology is poo, self taught lol

@dahne boy... hell yes, feelin it.. id automate the resonance if anything... just get the sound moving around a little...

@smor3s lovin the intro, reminds me of the megadrive days (super hang on specifically) lovin the tune, just a little automation (sure your on it already lol) an the dnb beat is lacking a lil... sick sick sick tho.. following

now, pretty new to dubstep production, but been a dnb dj for years/been messing about here an there, its only the last month or so ive really tried getting my head round things... anyway.. links
dubstep tune (ive since figured a few important things in massive so big changes soon)
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and my most recent wip... dnb tune ive spent about a day on all in all...
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feedback verry welcome/appreciated... wicked site.. keep it up everyone

[SMOR3S]

@MylarHailSatan: The track is pretty good, I just think the main bass synth gets repetitive after a while

@MiNoR cOnFuSiOn: The synth on this one could use more movement, and variation... I am loving the arpy lead, sounds really happy... Your Kick and Snare, could be louder, it kind of gets suffocated by everything else...

I worked on the mix a bit more... I still think the live drums could be better mixed... I scrapped the 175BPM idea for the final drop... I might change out the piano, with a different one, I am just Giant Piano from Kontakt atm, but I think it sounds to tinny.. I want to do something else for my synth breaks also maybe... And I was thinking of getting one of my rapper buddies to do some vocals for the track...

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[3D_Shades]

Alright guys, it's been a couple of weeks and I took your feedback to heart and locked myself in my room and learned some stuff and this is what I've come up with.

This first track is something I spent a few days on and I think it came it pretty good. I was having some trouble with the bass midway through the track distorting really badly once I rendered to audio even though I had my limiter on the master channel. Now I know I actually have to do stuff and not rely on the limiter

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This other track is more towards the house/electro side of things, and is still nowhere near finished, but I was kinda feeling the vibe on it and would like to hear any feedback you guys can give.

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[SMOR3S]

@3D_Shades:

The first track isn't working, so I'll comment on the second one...

Umm, the intro (with just the kicks) sounds really boring, try adding some ambience, or something there... The synth is fine, but it sounds way to thin, add some more stuff... The overall melody is good, if that's what you want, but it just feels way to empty, and needs more movement...

Make sure to give feedback before posting too bro...

Updated again:

I changed out the intro melody, and re-did a bunch of synth sounds... I still think my synth breaks need more work :/

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[3D_Shades]

yeah, sorry about the first link, i had made a mistake on the version i uploaded, its good now though.

and thanks for the feedback on the second one, will definitely add some more movement in there and beef things up a bit, though i just dont know how to make that synth any stronger (i'm new at this). Any tips?

btw, ive given feedback before, should i do it every time i post a new track?
check out the first one, its up now and i like it a bit better, but id still like some feedback.

[SMOR3S]

yeah, sorry about the first link, i had made a mistake on the version i uploaded, its good now though.

and thanks for the feedback on the second one, will definitely add some more movement in there and beef things up a bit, though i just dont know how to make that synth any stronger (i'm new at this). Any tips?

btw, ive given feedback before, should i do it every time i post a new track?
check out the first one, its up now and i like it a bit better, but id still like some feedback.

Yes, each time,

The first one is a lot better, can tell for sure, it's better produced... Not big on the claps though...

Well you can either add effects to the synth, or layer other synths with the same melody under each other... You can also layer chords, rather than having one note melodies..

Btw, is that a hang drum in the first track?

[MiNoR cOnFuSiOn]

@MiNoR cOnFuSiOn: The synth on this one could use more movement, and variation... I am loving the arpy lead, sounds really happy... Your Kick and Snare, could be louder, it kind of gets suffocated by everything else...

cheers man, i been lazy, aint gonna lie. nothings leveled out/eqd just yet (jus inst vol on the side literally) and the drum beat is a dnb beat i resliced hence the snare is lacking a little presence.. agree with the synths, thought someone was gonna say that tbh, getting my teeth into massive now tho so will be working on it some more, good to finally have a replying audience, abet a small one... drunk clubbers dance to anything tbh, an every other forum seems to think liquid/chuilled out dnb/dubstep are normal and "its too angry hahahahah loves it... eeeejoots from god knows where tellin a croydon boy what dnb/dubstep should sound like... hahahaha

urs is sounding good tho bruv, like seriously LOL i liked the dnb bit, it was just missing a little shake/high end on the cymbals and the snare shortening up.. id throw it back in there an really throw it about... would love to just be there for 10 mins as i got it going OFF in my head right now

anyway chewers for the comments, taken it all on board and will be working on a new version

[marlin]

@3D_Shades:
Updated again:

I changed out the intro melody, and re-did a bunch of synth sounds... I still think my synth breaks need more work :/

I think the main thing is that it's more or less the same synth break every time. If you varied them up some more, it'd be really cool. I like the drop though, and the one moment at :45 is super dope. The only other thing I'd say is that there a few transitions out of the synth breaks that feel awkward or off beat (one is 2:33. I know it's not ACTUALLY off beat, but the volume automation makes it just feel awkward.) All in all a pretty fucking dope track though dude, I like it a lot.

[marlin]

@MylarHailSatan:
I like the feel so far, but the song sounds really sparse overall...there's just not a whole lot going on. the first thing I would do is make those drums bigger. Also, if you added some ambient noise in the background (a pad, or sometimes ambient samples work really well), it would really help to fill out the track. It sounds like it could be a really dope track, it just sounds kinda thin overall right now.

@Acro:
Wow, I really like this. Loving the high pitched samples. I would love to get high to this. Really great groove. The kick could be a little more present maybe. One thing that I hear in a lot is that, while do have two distinct parts, they follow the same chords, which makes it feel a little monotonous sometimes.

Here's what I'm working on right now:
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[chasewoood]

@smor3s
the bass sounds a lil muddy. try messing with the eq. very cool pattern though

@3dshades
you wait too long to add variety. i always like suggesting the nested structure. if you can't think of anything just switch up what you got every 4th bar till you get a good midi going

@marlin

can't hear the drums very well. especially the snare if there even is one. try boosting the drums a lot. and add grit to the bass lines

Looking for some feedback all thanks....drumstep wip

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[SMOR3S]

@marlin: The rev snare sound, I think is to wide... The snare could use more pop also, it's really low, and it gets drowned out pretty quick... Other than that it sounds pretty cool... Sound pretty well arranged... I would work on the mixing a little more though...

@chasewoood: Seems pretty cool, but your bass seems really thin, and to stereo imo, + your kicks have way to much reverb, it's overkill, especially at the build up...

Worked more on my track! Still having a hard time mixing my live drums, toms, and synths breaks...

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[chasewoood]

^^^ @smor3s really enjoying the song still . and thanks for the help!

[DJens]

@ chasewoood: I'd add a seperate sub layer so your drop gets heavier and fuller

@ 3d_shades: I like it! good mixdown and a present sub!


Here's a new one I'm working on, will release it with some other unheard bits once my fb page reaches 200 likes. Feedback highly appreciated

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[marlin]

@Smor3s:
First thing I noticed is that the kick in beginning has more punch. I like that.The drums in general are sounding a lot tighter with is nice. I assume the live drums are the ones that come in around 1.10 (among other places). Depending on the sound you're going for, I might low-cut those, but that's more a matter of preference I think. It's sounding really good dude!

@chasewood:
I really like the strings in the beginning, and the melody in the drop is super cool. Like others said, definitely fatten up that bass. I like the sound you've got going, but I wanna feel it too. I definitely think the kick needs some work, it sounds pretty hollow at the moment. Finally, the build and drop sort of come out of nowhere, you might want to lead up to it a bit more in the intro.

I worked on mine some more. Mainly, I brought the snare forward some, added some grit to the sub bass and did some preliminary eq'ing and mixing:
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[Efrafa11]

SMOR3S: I would like a little bit more high end to poke through, it doesn't really have as much sparkle to it on that side of the spectruma s I like although I suppose it could be my headphones.
The arrangment and flow is nice, maybe a more definitive ending? Good job though pretty solid mix.

Djens: Overall a little quite, like I can hear your drums reverb really well its so quite. I dug the voc hits and the vib and sound as a whole but a volume increase on the wobbles on everthing around the drums would be nice. Also the vocs sound a little dry and stick out a bit. The end product sounds like it would be pretty nice, wouldn'nt mind hearing the complete version!

Marlin: The vocs sound a bit light and tiny, I know it's sorta background but it adds this sorta unprofessionl sound quality no offense. Then yeah, the drop sorta sounds like this sound then this sound then this sound. Having your sound flow into each other and transfer to each other might be benificial? The arrangment is nice and everything sounds nice and in key and the idea in general doesn't get stale.
a bit of work on the mix down as well.

3dshades The first song is pretty vibey, I like the content a lot but the mix leaves a little bit to desire. Sometimes things seem a little random and the transtions could be a bit smoother but overall your progressing fast since your other posts.

[npcompl33t]

@marlin - I think you might try a different snare sound man - is it hitting with the kick every time? Or is that low end on the snare? I would not have the kick hit the same time as it if it is the former, it gives it a weird tempo - if it is not the kick, then EQ the shit out of the low end on that snare lol. Its honestly the only thing i could hear on the first listen. Its hard for me to judge your bass line with the snare stuff going on, but your sounds are decent enough. I think some cuts/variation on the tempo could bring alot of energy into the mix - ie throw in some triplets every now and then to catch the listener by surprise.

@DJens - nice ambience on this track man - ambience is the thing i am working on getting better at the most at the present so i can respect the work you put into this lol. I think some variation on your bassline or some additional sound elements (ie a new precussion instrument) would help to keep the track from getting repetitive. It is sounding good so far tho man, keep up the good work!

@SMOR3S - first thing i noticed is that during the drop everything seems to hit dead center - try panning some of your drum kit to different areas. Ie, high hats are typically panned far left with a delayed version sent to the right (<10ms for Hass stereo effect). Snare can be central but panning to 1 or 2 o'clock can bring some clarity to the mix and make the snare stand out more. Panning some of the mid-range bass to the side can also give your kick a little more room, because unless we are talking jazz the kick needs to be dead center obviously. Your mix is sounding pretty good - sub sits in the mix nicely. I would try to match the reverb on the drums (assuming the reverb i am hearing is a byproduct of the recording and not added by you) as right now it seemed fairly noticable that they are in a different accoustic environment than the rest of the mix - if you cant match it then make a new reverb and send a little bit of the drums to the new reverb and send all of your tracks there as well.

@chasewood - i liked that kick when i first heard it but the section where you half the notes of the kick at 0:45 seems drawn out and it doesnt sit well in the mix after the drop. See some of the above comments i made about matching reverb - the kick is clearly in a different accoustic environment than the rest of the song. Your drop sounds really sparse, maybe add in some high hats or a ride to help fill the empty space.

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i havent really focused on mixing too much yet - been mostly working on the arrangement. I would love some feedback.

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[Giles Davis]

@minor confusion: Liking the D&B tune dude, that's sounding pretty solid for the first day!! I think when the distorted bass first comes in in the intro it is a little overpowering, maybe dial it back slightly and ease it up. Just my taste arrangement wise, but I feel bringing the energy down for longer before the drop would give it more impact too. The sub is fat but getting a little bit lost maybe? Could use a little more definition.

@3D_Shades: Niiiiicccce dude, I don't listen to a lot of dub but when I do this is the shit I like, nice & deep with lot's of interesting movement. Ummm, struggling to think of anything constructive, bass could have a little more power, maybe boost the sub up a little? The snare could use a little work (though it's all personal taste really) I feel a quicker decay would suit the track more, I'm hearing a massive ringy hollow kind of snare in my head that sounds like it would own.

@chasewoood: I'm feeling a distinct lack of low end which is making it kick nowhere near as hard as it could, I really love the drum sounds you've used, nice and gritty, they also could use some more punch, I think it will sound pretty pumpin when you mix it down though.


Ok, I haven't been at this very long, hard to put in the hours around my f*cking day job, was planning on focussing on more of a tech house sound but fell in love with the whole Bass/House/Garage thing. Been working on this for a few days and getting a little stuck!!


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[darkdubz]

@npcomp - love the intro, builds nicely - you could make the vocals a bit clearer at the beginning, i love all the synths you have in there, drop is sick, but a little bit generic, drums could be a lot heaver with more percussion. sweet tune though bro, keep at it

@marlin - dig the melody in the into, nice sample too, could be turned up bit so more . again the bass line is very generic and has been used so much, try to make some bass sounds that you have not heard before, just way fun with it, don't be afraid to get weird with it lol, but apart from that nice structure.

@Chasewood - interesting build up, lots of strange sound, which i like! i like the bass sounds you going for, but bro there is no sub bass at all, you must address this. and structure is a bit off, have a few more bars before it breaks down again.

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[subfect]

@clayrocks - gorgeous man, really love that guitar segment you got going. Really nice progression. Those "starry" kind of stabs at the start are really really nice. Nothing really to say other than I wish the sub was brought a little more forward in the mix. Really really nice. Followed.

@altron - not bad synthesis, although not my style. Needs a bit of eq though - sounds like the tops could be brought up a bit (aim around 1.5k), also needs a bit more low-end. If this clashes with your kick try side-chaining it a little to make room. Not bad at all. The variations are also very nice.

@cmgoodman - always love poeple stepping into other genres. Some pretty nice stuff, though that snare irks me a bit, maybe just a tad too loud? Cool sample choice, I think it's just a bit too far forward in the mix. Nice chops and vocal samples, good work

@mthrfnk - kind of stuff I woul hear at a big day festival, you play often? Nothing to pick at tbh, all sounds on point.

@faare faced - mate you seem to have a really nice balance between the heavy aggressive - a kind of happy middle ground. Definitely need to work some eq on that bass, sounds a bit muddy (try a dip around the 300-400hz range), and boost a bit up high, it's lacking some nice top-end harmonics. Good work man, lovely use of distortion.

@smor3s... I'll be honest, I find that really hard to listen to. If I had to say anything though - snare seems a bit drowned out, as does the kick - need to clean up the eq there. Actually I'd probably replace the kick altogether, the style you do doesn't really appreciate soft kicks, which that seems to be. Could also just need a little transient shaping/compression.

@acro - man, this thread is full of quality atm (haven't been around in a while). Gorgeous. 808 snare choice is perfect, as is the kick drum really nice vocal chops. If anything, I think the drums need a little love to bring them forward, and take out the relevant eqs in the rest, they seem a bit washed out. Reverb is really tasty.

Here's mine - haven't produced in about 7-8 months, so a bit rusty, but super happy with the growls. Dungeon-esque.

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