Mixing - Pitch or Push >?

[*decibella~~]

Easy guys,

Jus wondered how you mix.
Ive always used finger-work, pushing round and slowing down.
I have been advised a few times now, that i should really learn to mix with the pitch control (to speed up and slow down)

so i jus wondered your thoughts? Seems quite hard to learn to mix that way (i sppose its not what im used to now), but people have advised me its a much better way of doing things.....

???

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[osk]

I'd like to say it was Pitch only, but it's more a combination of the two.

[jam1]

as soon as i got my first set of technics it was all about mixing with the pitch controls, i find it more satisfying mixing this way. you can be more accurate with your adjustments and its less obvious in the mix.

thats my theory anyway!!

[a_k47]

pitch chasing all day long its not about fingers toes and thumbs when your in the mix

[furiouz]

A little bit of both.

[wascal]

pitch chasing all day long its not about fingers toes and thumbs when your in the mix

I agree. I only resort to touching the records when things are going baaadly wrong.

[ekstrak]

mm.. you poll is missing 'both'.

[man-versus-sofa]

im a fingers man my self

but i do use a bit of chasing for the small adjustments

[jam1]

pitch chasing all day long its not about fingers toes and thumbs when your in the mix

I agree. I only resort to touching the records when things are going baaadly wrong.

THIS ^^

[dutty yuppie]

It's very individual I guess.

My technique is defo a bit of both. Started off as a turntablist (not quite up to those supreme standards but good enough after 13 years) though so can't resist touching the records at any given opportunity!

If the beat I'm mixing in is slightly slow, I'll push in the record by twisting the silver bit coming out the middle of the turntable.

If it's too fast, I'll slow it down with a quick tap on the record itself.

Obviously, I'll adjust the pitch as necessary whilst doing these.

Hard to explain really but it works for me pretty much every time. Took forever to get there though.

I know people say always use the pitch but I say fuck 'em.

You mixed anything other than dubstep, Deci? If you're a learner, I'd say dubstep is a bastard hard genre to start on (despite records all being the same speed) as there can be such gaps between the beats. Mastered beatmixing with house and breaks but that can be very much like painting by numbers.

[dutty yuppie]

pitch chasing all day long

Compared to using your fingers, I find this can take all day long.

[glacial]

when you start beatmatching it's fingers but at the same time I am adjusting the pitch till it's all sound smooth and clear so both I guess

[ufo over easy]

pitch chasing all day long

Compared to using your fingers, I find this can take all day long.

nah only if you're rubbish.

if you get good at pitch chasing you can have two records absolutely unshakably locked on technics within a few bars.

if you use your hands a lot and significantly push/pull the records forward or backwards, it just sounds really, really sloppy. little adjustments are ok but if you want your mixes to sound smooth it really has to be all about the pitch

deci do you not use the pitch at all? you must do a little bit right?

[shonky]

pitch chasing all day long its not about fingers toes and thumbs when your in the mix

I agree. I only resort to touching the records when things are going baaadly wrong.

It's always going badly wrong for me. If it doesn't have jarring train-wrecks then you can guarantee it's going to be full of shoves and drags (followed by more shoves and drags until the lamest of spinbacks to make it sound "edgy").

With the right instrumentation, some of my blends sound like the Clangers

[dutty yuppie]

pitch chasing all day long

Compared to using your fingers, I find this can take all day long.

nah only if you're rubbish.

if you get good at pitch chasing you can have two records absolutely unshakably locked on technics within a few bars.

if you use your hands a lot and significantly push/pull the records forward or backwards, it just sounds really, really sloppy. little adjustments are ok but if you want your mixes to sound smooth it really has to be all about the pitch

deci do you not use the pitch at all? you must do a little bit right?

OK, you've helped me articulate how I do it now. Get pretty much on point with the pitch before going into the mix....Then make tiny adjustments as necessary with my hands in the mix. Very tiny...Can even pre-empt a sloppy mix this way and still sounds smooth more often than not.

EDIT: It's weird putting into words how to do it! Never really explained it.

[vonboyage]

I was "taught" to push the record (sticker) forward with the index finger .. case i couldnt understand why the pitch wasnt giving me an immediate effect.

I'd say a mix of both..

if its slipping slightly, i push till the pitch control catches up..

[fushimi]

Fingers when it's going wrong.


Fingers always sounds bad on tunes with lots of midrange though especially synth lines.

[tha_illsta]

BOTH / OTHER

[incyde]

ahhhhhh.....

i have to admit i use the 'push' method quite more often than i should. infact once ive started a mix i almost always use a push to adjust it if its going off, then adjust the pitch accordingly..... but i should probably try to learn to use the pitch alone..... hahaa

but when pushing, u have to do it at the right time. there are some tunes that sounds terrible when u push, so u have to push the other one instead. but i always aim to push when there's a break in the music or when its off the beat, so that u cant hear it.

[masstronaut]

If you have to push then do it in time with the music.