Cool quotes

[Forum]

It was all about the crouching uppercut if you couldn't remember a proper finisher.

That one i do remember

[DRTY]

People often defend criticism of conspiracy theories with something like "yeah right, conspiracies never happen.", or "I don't have to be a nutcase to think that the government is corrupt.

Conspiracies do happen, but notice the term is "conspiracy theory". This is when a theory tries to replace evidence with conspiracy. For example, the idea that natural herbs can cure cancer but the evidence is being suppressed by big pharma. In science, a theory must have some evidence, or else it is simply a hypothesis. Anytime someone tries to use the lack of evidence as evidence, they are violating the scientific method. This is why conspiracy theories are pseudoscience.

But what about the times when conspiracies do happen? Well, how do we know they were conspiracies? Leaked documents, confessions giving inside information, people failing to keep silent, unplanned circumstances interfering, ect. These are all things that prove a true conspiracy produces evidence. None of the conspiracies we know about were uncovered by arm-chair supposition. True conspiracies leave a trail of cause and effect which in some cases takes very rigorous investigation to uncover. True investigation takes time to build a case, yet conspiracy theories crop up almost immediately after an event occurs. Because plausibility is presumed and speculation is treated as investigation, conspiracy theorists really do not even have a hypothesis, they simply have a narrative they’ve strung together using as many assumptions and leaps of logic as needed for the glue. In this way, they bastardize the scientific meaning of the word theory, abuse the entire process of scientific discovery, and the term “conspiracy theory” becomes an oxymoron.

So don't get mad when a conspiracy thoery is dismissed without evidence. What you should get mad about is the theorist who asks you to throw out all the standards and quality controls we have for investigation, to overlook the lazy methods and lack of merit, and believe his/her story, which accuses people of horrible things and calls you a sheep, without evidence.

[syrup]

"BARE MAN IN TENT... BARE GYALY TRUST ASWEL"

-wonga's m8

[magma]

"Youth is wasted on the young" - George Bernard Shaw

[Pistonsbeneath]

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"

If things were a little more transparent and not quite so much for profit and to protect interests then I think the standard sources for "evidence" wouldn't be so frequently questioned

And the family tree thing which if you're agreeing is for the most part true surely proves the whole system of politics is corrupt and nobody will ever get anywhere unless it has been decided beforehand

[sixs]

'Who looks outside, dreams. Who looks inside, awakens.' - Carl Jung

Jung and his absolutes no reason for the 2 to be mutually exclusive

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"

[sixs]

If we are unduly absorbed in improving our lives we may forget altogether to live them. ~ Watts

[Pistonsbeneath]

The quote btw could be applied either way Wub

So in that instance you're seeing what you want to see just as much as people that you feel jump to conclusions

[wub]

I hadn't replied since last time you posted, so not sure who you're responding to but it's not me.

[Pistonsbeneath]

I hadn't replied since last time you posted, so not sure who you're responding to but it's not me.

I was replying to the quote you posted

[magma]

"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." - Oscar Wilde

"quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself, always a laborious business." - A.A. Milne

"He wrapped himself in quotations - as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors." - Rudyard Kipling

"All which he understood by rote,
And, as occasion served, would quote;
No matter whether right or wrong;
They might be either said or sung." - Samuel Butler







"I'll fuck you 'til you love me, phaggyt" - Mike Tyson

[Mason]

"I'll fuck you 'til you love me, phaggyt" - Mike Tyson

[Mr Hyde]

And the family tree thing which if you're agreeing is for the most part true surely proves the whole system of politics is corrupt and nobody will ever get anywhere unless it has been decided beforehand

Nepotism and having money to move in certain social circles/schooling etc. definitely helps getting power, I don't think there's any secret or conspiracy to that. Social capital.

But there are loads of exceptions, plenty of politicians (like Thatcher or Major or Brown) got to the top without coming from rich well connected political families, so do loads of other rich and powerful people.

[d-T-r]

quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself, always a laborious business." - A.A. Milne

"He wrapped himself in quotations - as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors." - Rudyard Kipling

The quotes that criticize quoting as being lazy, a sign of no wit or an ability to think for yourself don't really cut it for me. Especially when the quotes enable you to think in ways you might not have to begin with.

After all, what is a book but a massive string of quotes from someone else? Fuck books, think for yourself...and while we're at it, fuck poetry and song lyrics too, make your own songs if you can think for yourself

It's ok to enjoy the words of other people.

"Comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable"- Unknown

"In this state of absorbed contemplation, there is no longer any question of holding an object in view; the vision is such that seeing and seen are one; object and act of vision have become identical."

"Never did eye see the sun unless it had first become sun-like, and never can the soul have vision of the First Beauty unless itself be beautiful." - Plotinus

"That which blossomed forth as cosmic egg fifteen billion years ago now blossoms forth as oneself, as one's family, as one's community of living beings, as our blue planet, as our ocean of galaxy clusters. The same fecund source -- then and now; the same numinous energy -- then and now. To enter the omnicentric unfolding universe is to taste the joy of radical relational mutuality." --Brian Swimme

[fassyman]

it is too clear and so it is hard to see.
A dunce once searched for a fire with a lighted lantern.
Had he known what fire was,
He could have cooked his rice much sooner.

[WhosZena]

Thich Nhat Hanh's a cool guy. Were you at the trafalga square thing last year Zena?

Also, a shortened version of that quote ,

"A good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving." - Lao Tzu

No, wish I did, didn't hear about it till after! how was it?

There are organised meditation 'flash mobs' around town every now and then... worth going to

just checked, the next one is 8th of june in trafalgar square

[magma]

It's ok to enjoy the words of other people.

Absolutely, I was just trying to start a conversation really. It strikes me that the more beautiful a piece of prose, though, the more likely people are to believe it; no matter what sense is contained within.

For instance, one of yours:

"That which blossomed forth as cosmic egg fifteen billion years ago now blossoms forth as oneself, as one's family, as one's community of living beings, as our blue planet, as our ocean of galaxy clusters. The same fecund source -- then and now; the same numinous energy -- then and now. To enter the omnicentric unfolding universe is to taste the joy of radical relational mutuality." --Brian Swimme

I'm not convinced that really means very much at all once you break down its message. It's very beautiful; is that enough?

[noam]

quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself, always a laborious business." - A.A. Milne

"He wrapped himself in quotations - as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors." - Rudyard Kipling

The quotes that criticize quoting as being lazy, a sign of no wit or an ability to think for yourself don't really cut it for me. Especially when the quotes enable you to think in ways you might not have to begin with.

missed the point of the quotes slightly i think

[d-T-r]

Yeah i think i did project a defensive standpoint in retrospect. And magma, i guess "is that enough?" will always remain subjective.


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"We are shaped by each other. We adjust not to the reality of the world, but to the reality of other thinkers.”

"Our reality is influenced by our notions about reality, regardless of the nature of those notions”

-Joseph Chilton Pearce "

[Mason]

'The map is not the territory'