Adding sub to resampled bass

[zosomagik]

How do you guys go about it?

[Today]

depends on how i made the bass in the first place
if it was a synth patch, i would make a new patch copying all envelopes/modulations and just use a sine wave oscillator with no FX. use the same midi and record to a new (mono) audio channel.
if it's got filter movement/wobble type shit, I would use the same modulation source and apply it to the sine wave's amplitude.

then layer the two sounds


If it were some other process like a bass guitar or sampled/processed audio, i would just determine what the notes are and play them on a sub bass patch or an 808 kick sample

[kejk]

How do you guys go about it?

Put an EQ/HP filter on your bass sound and just add a sine with the same midi notes.

[Sharmaji]

aphex 204

[JBE]

I don't resample very often at all. I usually use mainly sub bass anyway, so I just use something simple like 3xOSC in FL. I also have a couple Nice little sub bass patches I made awhile ago and I use them a lot as well. However, I always like to have something else to accompany it. Usually a stringed instrument patch of some sort like a violin. Nothing really aggressive though. Just something that sits well just over the top in the 100-300 range.

There are times when I actually do resample a bassline. But for those rare occasions I usually just make the whole patch in the synth and then split the frequencies. In those situations I just set the low frequencies to mono and then boost the proper frequencies if they need it.

[SunkLo]

aphex 204

Interdasting...

You prefer this to trying to highpass and seat a clean sine underneath that follows pitch? I suppose it would be a lot easier for stuff that varies in pitch, or for samples which didn't come from a synth triggered by midi. I'll have to keep that in mind on the off chance I ever get my hands near one. I never would have thought to use an exciter for generating low frequencies instead higher ones. I wonder what plugins come close... Gonna have to try out that Waves plug and see what I can coax out of it.

[Sharmaji]

You prefer this to trying to highpass and seat a clean sine underneath that follows pitch? I suppose it would be a lot easier for stuff that varies in pitch, or for samples which didn't come from a synth triggered by midi. I'll have to keep that in mind on the off chance I ever get my hands near one. I never would have thought to use an exciter for generating low frequencies instead higher ones. I wonder what plugins come close... Gonna have to try out that Waves plug and see what I can coax out of it.

depends... if what you want is a sine wave following the bassline then, yes, use a sine. if you want to thicken up the sound that's already there-- the aphex is killer.

maxxbass/LoAir/RenBass all have their uses too, but w/ synths i generally find the sound i'm going for faster w/ the aphex.

(keep in mind i'm doing little-to-no-dubstep these days)

Rbass can be great on the 2buss when the track just needs more low end, but none of the elements have it going on.

[SunkLo]

Word. I'm rarely producing dubstep lately either. Mostly shit around 90 bpm. Usually I build from the bottom up and distort and split my sub into mid bass. Never tried going the other direction. Could be dead useful on a bass guitar as well.

For the record I was talking about the Waves Aphex emulation. Completely forgot about their maxxbass family of plugs

[Toolman4]

@OP: I think I know exactly where you're coming from.

For myself, taking a gnarly resampled sound and then layering a straight sine sub underneath it, doesn't provide the same feel/movement, nor does it compliment the sound as well as when you modulate the sub the same 'dominant' way the mid sound is modulated...With this in mind, the best way I've found to keep the low end intact after resampling is to design your patch with a modulated sub prior to any resampling..Then during resampling, split the frequencies each time and keep the low end mono and present (EQ, adding harmonics, compression?)...Being able to independently control the low end while doing sound design is a great way to preserve the low end.

Cheers all