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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Artie_Fufkin » Wed May 15, 2013 4:43 am

nopEda wrote:
Artie Fufkin wrote:google and you will find.
I don't know what it all means but it sounds cool. I've seen those packs for Massive but don't want to spend that much money. Do you know of any you would recommend for any free synths? Or maybe wobbleboss...I think I can afford that if it's enough different from the free synths to be worth the money. At this point of ignorance it seems any of them should make pretty much the same sounds if they're adjusted the same way, but I don't even know enough to understand whether that's true or not.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=good+dubstep+presets+for+synth1

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Dahneboy » Wed May 15, 2013 12:22 pm

nopEda wrote:
Dahneboy wrote:relying on presets to make songs is pretty bad imo you wont see things, i used to be like this and learned not to, i ended up making better synths than what i used to download
I hope to be able to do that too, but for now at least I can play around with putting different ideas together using existing presets instead of spending hours only trying to make a particular sound or two. In "How To Make A Noise" the author points out that sometimes presets you find will do ok, and sometimes they do ok with some tweaking. Since so far I don't know anything about manipulating sounds it's good that I can use presets to practice doing things with or I wouldn't be doing anything at all. The book uses Vanguard which I downloaded but in trying to open it it says an install-on-demand component is required and I have no idea what that means, so now I'll spend half a day or whatever trying to find that out...
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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Ficticious » Wed May 15, 2013 12:49 pm

There's nothing wrong with presets. I'ts how you use them to get to your point that matters over the melodies you make.

As I saw on a comment one time, probably the best hting I've read in a while.

"it doesn't matter how you get to the end result or what you use to get there, just make a fucking good song."

With regards to the fact that it's an original song and not stolen of course.


On the other side of this, you shouldn't rely on presets all the time and should know at least a little bit of sound design on your free time.. Presets are there to make your life easier with a sound you want that you can kinda tweak, or just simply layer with a bunch of others to get ot said end result. But if you're looking for uniqueness it's hard to unless you dabble in effects or stuff like dblue/effectrix/reverbs and weird octaves.
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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Dahneboy » Wed May 15, 2013 12:54 pm

Ficticious wrote:There's nothing wrong with presets. I'ts how you use them to get to your point that matters over the melodies you make.

As I saw on a comment one time, probably the best hting I've read in a while.

"it doesn't matter how you get to the end result or what you use to get there, just make a fucking good song."

With regards to the fact that it's an original song and not stolen of course.


On the other side of this, you shouldn't rely on presets all the time and should know at least a little bit of sound design on your free time.. Presets are there to make your life easier with a sound you want that you can kinda tweak, or just simply layer with a bunch of others to get ot said end result. But if you're looking for uniqueness it's hard to unless you dabble in effects or stuff like dblue/effectrix/reverbs and weird octaves.
agreed :h:

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by nopEda » Wed May 15, 2013 3:28 pm

Ficticious wrote:With regards to the fact that it's an original song and not stolen of course.

On the other side of this, you shouldn't rely on presets all the time and should know at least a little bit of sound design on your free time.. Presets are there to make your life easier with a sound you want that you can kinda tweak, or just simply layer with a bunch of others to get ot said end result. But if you're looking for uniqueness it's hard to unless you dabble in effects or stuff like dblue/effectrix/reverbs and weird octaves.
I sure want to do some original tunes, but one of the first things I'd like to play around with is "somewhere over the rainbow". What are the rules about something like that? If I never make any money from it, which will almost certainly be the case, it's not really illegal is it? Lord knows there are plenty of remixes and stuff out there, though I only want to copy the melodies not use any samples of someone singing it or anything.

I certainly do want to learn to manipulate sounds too. I'd like to use symphonic and marching instruments and learn to put dubstep sounds on field drums and tympani and horns and strings, and on animals sounds too. If I try to follow a tutorial where they're doing stuff with one type of synth, but I use a different one, if I make the same adjustments should I be able to at least get a decent idea what's going on even if it doesn't sound exactly the same? If so, do you know of any you'd recommend?

Thanks to all you folks for helping with this! What a load of stuff to learn! If all the info could be mind dumped into your brain at one time, I wonder if it would cause spontaneous cranial combustion.

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Dahneboy » Wed May 15, 2013 3:40 pm

nopEda wrote:
Ficticious wrote:With regards to the fact that it's an original song and not stolen of course.

On the other side of this, you shouldn't rely on presets all the time and should know at least a little bit of sound design on your free time.. Presets are there to make your life easier with a sound you want that you can kinda tweak, or just simply layer with a bunch of others to get ot said end result. But if you're looking for uniqueness it's hard to unless you dabble in effects or stuff like dblue/effectrix/reverbs and weird octaves.
I sure want to do some original tunes, but one of the first things I'd like to play around with is "somewhere over the rainbow". What are the rules about something like that? If I never make any money from it, which will almost certainly be the case, it's not really illegal is it? Lord knows there are plenty of remixes and stuff out there, though I only want to copy the melodies not use any samples of someone singing it or anything.

I certainly do want to learn to manipulate sounds too. I'd like to use symphonic and marching instruments and learn to put dubstep sounds on field drums and tympani and horns and strings, and on animals sounds too. If I try to follow a tutorial where they're doing stuff with one type of synth, but I use a different one, if I make the same adjustments should I be able to at least get a decent idea what's going on even if it doesn't sound exactly the same? If so, do you know of any you'd recommend?

Thanks to all you folks for helping with this! What a load of stuff to learn! If all the info could be mind dumped into your brain at one time, I wonder if it would cause spontaneous cranial combustion.
It will be considerd bootleg until approved or w.e but it doesnt matter as long as you give credit and enjoy your time making it and learning never stops, its a process of building knowledge, think of producing as body building as retarded as it sounds lol you need to keep working out , and feeding yourself some protien , influence and wanting to learn will take you farrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Dahneboy » Wed May 15, 2013 3:40 pm

also shitting a storm gives you time to think and what not :lol:

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by darkshadows7 » Wed May 15, 2013 4:47 pm

I don't know if anyone mentioned this but you have to click "initsettings" in the synth1 folder after its in the plugin folder and then the presets will work lol

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by nopEda » Wed May 15, 2013 7:20 pm

darkshadows7 wrote:I don't know if anyone mentioned this but you have to click "initsettings" in the synth1 folder after its in the plugin folder and then the presets will work lol
:lol: Hell Fuckin' Yeah!!! Thanks Man!!! So...is that a common thing? Can you tell me how to work with other pre-sets or preset packs or whatever they are if I find some more to install in it? There's a pile of them here I've read are pretty cool:

http://ann.sounds.free.fr/

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by darkshadows7 » Thu May 16, 2013 10:00 am

oh wow that website is cool! yea you should be able to get the other ones working too just add them into one of the empty soundbank folders than click init settings again and hit ok!

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by nopEda » Thu May 16, 2013 8:31 pm

darkshadows7 wrote:oh wow that website is cool! yea you should be able to get the other ones working too just add them into one of the empty soundbank folders than click init settings again and hit ok!
Only the soundbank 00 folder has stuff in it. The others have a dummy.txt. What's that for? Does it need to be removed, or does it matter? Will I have to do something different to access these presets or will all presets in all soundbanks show up together?

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by darkshadows7 » Mon May 20, 2013 7:05 am

all the presets will show up in diferent soundbanks just add to one of the empty folders and then click initsettings and they should all show up

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by nopEda » Wed May 22, 2013 5:30 pm

darkshadows7 wrote:all the presets will show up in diferent soundbanks just add to one of the empty folders and then click initsettings and they should all show up
I'm playing with Charlatan too and it's dropdown window just had a bunch of <empty>, but in its presets folder there are some .fxb files. Someone told me how to get a menu with the option to: Import VST patch/bank file. When I choose one it puts its presets in the drop down menu, but when I choose another one the first one is gone. Can I copy the initsettings.exe program into the Charlatan folder and run it, and then have all the presets show up on the drop down menu like it did with Synth1? Or is it something different with Charlatan? I'm sort of getting the idea maybe, but still don't really understand what I'm doing.

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by nopEda » Tue May 28, 2013 8:03 pm

darkshadows7 wrote:all the presets will show up in diferent soundbanks just add to one of the empty folders and then click initsettings and they should all show up
I opened them and put them in empty folders. Didn't remove the dummy.txt whether that matters or not...I'm guessing not. Ran the initsettings. It still doesn't work and the presets don't show up in the drop down menu. Maybe if I put them all in the same folder in which the presets do work? Or is there something else?

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Electric_Head » Wed May 29, 2013 6:57 am

why are you battling so much with preset loading?
Talk about getting lost in random technicalities.

The free how to make a noise book should be all you need to learn how to synthesise sounds.

Charlatan you install with a setup file.
It places everything where they need to be.
I can't understand how you could have issues with the presets.

Synth1 is more than capable of producing gritty sounds out of the box.
You just need to learn what makes up those sounds.
Which combinations of lfo sound best.

And finally, route the lfo to cutoff to make it wobble.
That seems to be what you want all synths to do anyway.
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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by nopEda » Wed May 29, 2013 7:29 pm

Electric_Head wrote:why are you battling so much with preset loading?
Talk about getting lost in random technicalities.

The free how to make a noise book should be all you need to learn how to synthesise sounds.

Charlatan you install with a setup file.
It places everything where they need to be.
I can't understand how you could have issues with the presets.

Synth1 is more than capable of producing gritty sounds out of the box.
You just need to learn what makes up those sounds.
Which combinations of lfo sound best.

And finally, route the lfo to cutoff to make it wobble.
That seems to be what you want all synths to do anyway.
I don't know why I can't load the presets but it's sure beating my ass hard. Between trying to do it, trying to find out how to do it through searches and trying to find out how to do it in forums I've lost quite a few hours to this shit. I feel like I've done what people said to do. I downloaded 2 groups of presets for Synth1, put them in 2 different folders that are empty except for the dummy.txt, soundbank 01 and 02, and ran the initsettings.exe program. But when I open Synth1's presets window none of the new programs are there, just the same ones that came with it. Maybe they all need to be in the same folder? But if so, why do several empty folders (except for the dummy.txt) come with the program to begin with?

With Charlatan I always have to open a menu and select Import VST patch/bank file, and then find the .fxb program I want to use. There's nothing in the drop down window except a bunch of <empty> until after doing that.

I've got Atlantis too and can't use the presets with that either. Again the presets are there, but I can't get the synth to use them. It really sux to be so ignorant, wasting hours and hours and hours trying to do something that seems like it should be easy, but I can't do it at all.

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by snappy » Wed May 29, 2013 7:34 pm

which daw are you using ?

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by nopEda » Thu May 30, 2013 9:11 pm

snappy wrote:which daw are you using ?
I'm using Reaper.

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Re: Good dubstep presets for Synth1?

Post by Electric_Head » Fri May 31, 2013 10:32 am

I also use Reaper with those same synths without any issues.
It's strange really.
Have you considered reinstalling the synths?
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