Dubstep the main genre on rinse now

vonboyage · Post by **vonboyage** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:06 pm

Sand Leaper wrote:It sounds more like Geeneus is just fed up with grime (re: his recent sets) and can't be bothered with it on his station anymore.

Don't normally agree with you, but i think u got it on the head there.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:10 pm

Vonboyage wrote:
And, why would I be sarcastic.

Because sarcasm is the new way to be sincere

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:10 pm

DIRTY wrote:Yes your are correct radio doesn't have a watershed but its still good practice not to swear because you will likely receive complaints, which will not be a good thing with ofcom.

But to be honest it seems a mute point considering Rinse is a pirate, but then I don't know how close Rinse are to getting a license.

Have to wait and see what happens.

Rinse is an online station mate.

Logan Sama has racked up 40k+ listeners with a pure grime show on Kiss, so that they're aiming for a license is no excuse really. It sounds more like Geeneus is just fed up with grime (re: his recent sets) and can't be bothered with it on his station anymore.

I highly doubt that mate. If he plays one time of music dosent mean everyone on his station cant play something different.

Yeah... and I can really picture a mother in a minivan driving her two boys to soccer practice listening to rinse FM Laughing

When I am in the car with my mum I control the radio.

He was just being sarcastic. He knows what grime is.
hopefully you're being sarcastic

I know what grime is mate, it was just an example. Being stereotypical maybe but how many MC's do you know that dont have a single swear word in their bars??

this is bare ignorance innit... you remind me of moral panic fuckwads in the states trying to sum up the subject matter of street level hip-hop.. get a clue and open your ears - or just don't comment on something you obviously don't understand

Not sure how good your geography is mate, but last time I checked Croydon was in London...

Bet its got fuck all to do with OFCom.

If it was why not just tell the ppl to be a hell of a lot more professional.
If they knew they were guna be on legal radio im sure they would.

I would.

Sounds like alot of fraff to me.

Untill there is an official post mate, or someone who is highly reliable with shit like this such as blackdown posts a message we can only speculate.

-blade- · Post by **-blade-** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:13 pm

Originally Posted by Sick Boy
This is the biggest load of shit ever.

I've basically had it - Rinse going on about how they care so much about new music and are so dedicated to it, not in it for the money, etc.

The way I see it, even if it DID have something to do with some MCs being problematic and a security issue, this is an example of Geeneus using the same arse-backwards reactions that has supressed grime for years.

When will people get it through their heads that the behaviour of a few people does not represent the entire genre of music? If it was an issue surrounding a person, ban THAT person from Rinse, not the genre.

vonboyage · Post by **vonboyage** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:13 pm

Ashley wrote:Untill there is an official post mate, or someone who is highly reliable with shit like this such as blackdown posts a message we can only speculate.

Corrr i hate speculating!!

this is guna be another one of those threads, init.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:18 pm

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:18 pm

seriously.. this doesn't really seem like the place but who is it that wants Rinse to go legal anyway?

sand leaper · Post by **sand leaper** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:18 pm

Ashley wrote: I highly doubt that mate. If he plays one time of music dosent mean everyone on his station cant play something different.

Of course, but seeing as how Geeneus is less than enthusiastic about grime in general nowadays, it's not very surprising that he gives it the boot as soon as having it on his station turns out to be a bit of a hassle.

vonboyage · Post by **vonboyage** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:22 pm

I just think its funny how one day he was MAKING/RELEASING grime.. probably making most of his money from it back in the day with the releases/bookings.

Now hes like "NARR..NOT AVVIN A BAR"

I hate speculating.. but with every minute that goes by, it seems like the only option.

WIZZBIT

docdoom · Post by **docdoom** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:25 pm

boomnoise wrote: iii)earlier this year in correspondence with Ofcom, Rinse stated that it does not want to be considered legal and will continue to broadcast illegally by 'any means necessary'. It also stated that gaining a license is for the station: 'pretty much a dream that we realistically have no chance of achieving.'

In an interview with Fact magazine a couple of weeks ago though -

Does the route that Kiss took, going from being a pirate to being a legal station, interest you?

Yes, very much so. We want to be legal. We don’t want to be legal to play stupid adverts and make loads of money from advertising. We want to be legal to say; look at our scene, look at what we doing. We’re a business, we’re not criminals. We want to be able to say ‘Rinse FM’ wherever we go, and for it not to be seen as bad thing. Kiss’s angle is completely different from Rinse’s. they want to make loads of money from advertising car insurance. We don’t want to advertise car insurance. And, possibly, we could go legit, with a license. We’re supplying something that no one else is supplying, and we’re very professional. We know how to run businesses. We run numerous businesses, like record labels [Geeneus owns the grime and dubstep labels Bingo Beats and Dumpvalve, and the House label, Jelly Jams].

Logan Sama confirmed that this is true - Grime is banned until further notice. Doesn't mean it's forever.

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:26 pm

ashley wrote:Rinse is an online station mate.

hahaha.

Whistla · Post by **Whistla** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:30 pm

UFO over easy wrote:
ashley wrote:Rinse is an online station mate.
hahaha.

(not getting involved in this thread but that is funny)

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:37 pm

docdoom wrote:
boomnoise wrote: iii)earlier this year in correspondence with Ofcom, Rinse stated that it does not want to be considered legal and will continue to broadcast illegally by 'any means necessary'. It also stated that gaining a license is for the station: 'pretty much a dream that we realistically have no chance of achieving.'
In an interview with Fact magazine a couple of weeks ago though -

Does the route that Kiss took, going from being a pirate to being a legal station, interest you?

Yes, very much so. We want to be legal. We don’t want to be legal to play stupid adverts and make loads of money from advertising. We want to be legal to say; look at our scene, look at what we doing. We’re a business, we’re not criminals. We want to be able to say ‘Rinse FM’ wherever we go, and for it not to be seen as bad thing. Kiss’s angle is completely different from Rinse’s. they want to make loads of money from advertising car insurance. We don’t want to advertise car insurance. And, possibly, we could go legit, with a license. We’re supplying something that no one else is supplying, and we’re very professional. We know how to run businesses. We run numerous businesses, like record labels [Geeneus owns the grime and dubstep labels Bingo Beats and Dumpvalve, and the House label, Jelly Jams].

Logan Sama confirmed that this is true - Grime is banned until further notice. Doesn't mean it's forever.

i didn't see that fact piece doom, cheers. a pretty radical backtrack from the statement to ofcom.

who knows what's going on at rinse. there is zero communication from the station itself. yes, it is supplying something no one else is, to a certain extent, but the professionalism certainly doesn't seem to be up to licensed standards yet as this goes to prove.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:38 pm

lol...

edit...forget it

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:40 pm

Hang on a minute. it was Wiley who stated this?

http://www.rwdmag.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85042

I Don't Believe Him, Give It Two Days.

dutty yuppie · Post by **dutty yuppie** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:45 pm

Edit: JW deleted his post so won't bother repeating it.

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:49 pm

Thomas wrote:Hang on a minute. it was Wiley who stated this?

http://www.rwdmag.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85042

I Don't Believe Him, Give It Two Days.

Logan Sama on Dissensus:

No, everyone on Rinse got the same text. Grime is banned until further notice.

And Rinse seem to be applying their patented PR strategy of not saying anything and waiting for a massive shitstorm to brew up...

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:52 pm

DJ Whistla wrote:
UFO over easy wrote:
ashley wrote:Rinse is an online station mate.
hahaha.

(not getting involved in this thread but that is funny)

Emma Warren wrote:Appropriately, N-Type's also a radio DJ, hosting a Sunday night show on the once-pirate, now internet-based Rinse FM, where you'll hear arcane banter ('hold tight the 613! Hold tight Grand!') and an up-to-the-minute snapshot of dubstep's good-times wing.

So yeh, as I was saying...rinse is an internet based station

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:53 pm

If it means i could have listend to Distance doing his thing, his way on friday. I'm for it i think.

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:55 pm

Also - for those snoozing and dont know the real facts try search the web for the phrases "rinse ofcom" and see what you get..

As radio moves into the digital age, the future looks uncertain for such stations, but Rinse FM, London's biggest pirate, is facing up to the challenge of adapting itself. The station, which has been on air for 12 years, specialises in street music and has fostered many of the underground genres that feed into mainstream popular music, including grime, dubstep and garage. It has long been essential listening for fans who want to hear the music that street legends (and Rinse regulars) such as Wiley or Skream have made that morning, rather than waiting 18 months through negotiations with agents, publicists and record companies before the tunes are aired on legal radio.

By moving on to the internet last year, Rinse broke with the old pirate radio model of a local rogue transmitter on the rooftop of a council estate. It is now available to listeners all over the world as Rinse.fm, an internet station, and free podcasts can be downloaded on iTunes. This is the first stage of a campaign to court a legal FM licence from Ofcom.

If Rinse does succeed in winning the licence, it will be interesting to see whether it will be able to maintain the raw, distinctive style that draws its core audience. The DJs on Rinse have a real intimacy with their listeners, coming from a shared passion for music that is viewed with suspicion by the mainstream. This has always been the key to pirate radio's appeal; I have friends who, as teenagers, would drive around desolate bits of Bermondsey just to find the best spot to get clear reception for So Solid Crew's show on Delight FM.

http://www.newstatesman.com/200708300033

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