Yeah actually.magma wrote:I've been working 9-5 for 13 years. I am at peace with it because it pays my bills and allows me to have an extremely comfortable and fun life, but it's got zero glamour and, frankly, I work like a dog for everything I get; I've just come off a 30 hour weekend for which I'll get paid vastly less than these chaps will get for a single hour of putting records on turntables one after the other... I don't get dap from strangers, head from groupies and free drugs for turning up and fixing servers either.Pedro Sánchez wrote: Depends on what angle you approach life from, some people see a 9-5 as a way to pay to just live and contribute their bit, then have interests that don't financially cost a lot to partake in but that's what they live for.
The music industry is as much a ball ache as a 9-5 for a shitty wage, sure you might get a lot of money quick from making music but that is only about 10% of it and it don't last to long for the average, especially in this day and age. I know artist that are seriously mentally scarred by the music biz because it's not what they imagined and it cost them relationships, they thought it would be...sit on your arse, knock out some tunes in your studio, go on tour and receive dollar and that's it for the rest of their life.
Everyone I've ever seen make it in the pop industry has worked incredibly hard (that includes a few artists and a lot of "industry" workers) and I don't doubt that Disclosure have too. Tearing them down and trying to convince yourself that they must be miserable seems an awful lot like jealousy tbh... I'm sure everyone of us that's ever posted in the Production forum would bite an A&R's hand off if offered even 2 years on the road in return for making more pop-friendly tunes.
If someone offered me a 2 year break from my 9-5 in order to make records with Mariah Carey and Justin Bieber, even knowing I had to come back, I'd be out of here quicker than you could say "sell out". I have a feeling the vast majority of people, if actually being honest with themselves, would do the same.
Even if there's hardships, even some scarring shit in there, I don't think people ever get that far without even longing for it. There's prob's some money. But also travel and all sorts of other good shit. Ever read a tour diary of some of these musicians? Shit you won't even see on tv. It's not a structured and predictable life and that itself has probably more value to some of these musicians than all the money in the world.
And btw. Performers "lip syncing' isn't a new low in pop music. This is part of the job. People have so much trouble separating the job musician from the creative outlet musician. Maybe it's not the most emotionally stimulating music to some (I've only heard one Disclosure tune and I forgot what it sounds like), but that's not point. Bottomline is, these kids got a way cooler job than most of us have. I've made this point before in another Diclosure thread, but not everyone flipping burgers at Burger King actually LIKES the food they make, but it brings in the bills. But Disclosure are flipping some pretty sub-par burgers for good money, world tours and crazy stories.
Y'all should spend half the time you spend hating on Disclosure on hating other people with jobs producing shitty products or services in other companies.
Mayne, we're not their target audience. If their target audience doesn't mind it, neither do I.wolf89 wrote:That's true just all my point was is that for the listener the "I would do it to" argument doesn't really change the fact that you don't want to go see some dick miming a dj set.
