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i seethe double m wrote:was taking the piss man
the post above me had the word 'arpeggioator' in it

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...and that is because?new_account wrote:I do.kuklee wrote:who cares?
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Though.. rarely... can send them to DJs if they are any good. (RARELY)alex bk-bk wrote:fucking amen to this thread
dont send you 1st or 2nd tunes to anyone ever
show your early material to friends or trusted ppl close to you, not to fucking labels trying to get signed
just try fucking harder
Something like second tune this guy ever made:
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You've set me up for a rinsing there lol.
I think, in fairness, when a young producer sends his/her first few tunes about and gets negative responses it makes them reassess their initial massive buzz of having managed to create some music, and maybe realise more precisely what sound they're going for and who its worth sending as a result. They might come back through with a different sound, even a different alias, and most probably figure out who exactly they should be sending stuff to after a little while, hence DJs or labelheads may see a lot of people send one tune then never again. I didn't carpet-bomb a load of DJs with my first couple of tunes (sending to friends is a much more effective early gauge) but I remember sending one or two people who, in retrospect, were just the complete wrong sort of artists for the (shit) style that particular tune was going for. Agree with the OP that how you react to inevitably finding that your first track is shit is what's important, but I reckon a big part of that is figuring out you want to make certain sound which is likely to be enjoyed by certain DJs, so that may involve not sending to the same people you did to begin with. It can also involve the process of naiively sending rubbish to respected DJs or labels.
I can see how it's probably incredibly irritating for DJs to get sent stuff that's very clearly underdeveloped, which makes you wish they'd send stuff later on, but at the same time I feel like its probably quite a formative process, not just for the music that producer makes but who they aim it at when they do develop as an artist. Best avoided, but understandable.
I think, in fairness, when a young producer sends his/her first few tunes about and gets negative responses it makes them reassess their initial massive buzz of having managed to create some music, and maybe realise more precisely what sound they're going for and who its worth sending as a result. They might come back through with a different sound, even a different alias, and most probably figure out who exactly they should be sending stuff to after a little while, hence DJs or labelheads may see a lot of people send one tune then never again. I didn't carpet-bomb a load of DJs with my first couple of tunes (sending to friends is a much more effective early gauge) but I remember sending one or two people who, in retrospect, were just the complete wrong sort of artists for the (shit) style that particular tune was going for. Agree with the OP that how you react to inevitably finding that your first track is shit is what's important, but I reckon a big part of that is figuring out you want to make certain sound which is likely to be enjoyed by certain DJs, so that may involve not sending to the same people you did to begin with. It can also involve the process of naiively sending rubbish to respected DJs or labels.
I can see how it's probably incredibly irritating for DJs to get sent stuff that's very clearly underdeveloped, which makes you wish they'd send stuff later on, but at the same time I feel like its probably quite a formative process, not just for the music that producer makes but who they aim it at when they do develop as an artist. Best avoided, but understandable.
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This thread is eye opening.
I started producing when I was 18, and I'm now thundering towards 24. It's mental how much you mature and your mentality changes in that time.
When I got my first tunes down some other producers were giving me props which was great, so I thought "fuck it why not" and sent shit to labels. (Properly addressed emails with etiquette, not just spammed out.)
Then as I sort of got older and a bit more mature I thought that was perhaps the amateur "carpet bomb" approach and I'd reign it in a bit. We've started up a local night here which I have residency at so I thought I'd just like to meet the headliners and chill, not make it about the music but maybe one day a headliner might hear one of my tracks when I play out and be like "Yeah I'd love to have that track."
So now I just stick tracks up on Soundcloud, record mixes every now and then, but generally leave it at that.
After reading this thread I might start sending out tracks again. In bunches of two at a time or something.
(IMO) My tracks are leaps and bounds above what I was making when I was 18/19 (As they should be) so in theory I should be more confident about sending labels dubs, but oddly I'm hesitant as I don't want a reputation of "That producer who spammed us a bunch and didn't get the hint when we never replied."
I started producing when I was 18, and I'm now thundering towards 24. It's mental how much you mature and your mentality changes in that time.
When I got my first tunes down some other producers were giving me props which was great, so I thought "fuck it why not" and sent shit to labels. (Properly addressed emails with etiquette, not just spammed out.)
Then as I sort of got older and a bit more mature I thought that was perhaps the amateur "carpet bomb" approach and I'd reign it in a bit. We've started up a local night here which I have residency at so I thought I'd just like to meet the headliners and chill, not make it about the music but maybe one day a headliner might hear one of my tracks when I play out and be like "Yeah I'd love to have that track."
So now I just stick tracks up on Soundcloud, record mixes every now and then, but generally leave it at that.
After reading this thread I might start sending out tracks again. In bunches of two at a time or something.
(IMO) My tracks are leaps and bounds above what I was making when I was 18/19 (As they should be) so in theory I should be more confident about sending labels dubs, but oddly I'm hesitant as I don't want a reputation of "That producer who spammed us a bunch and didn't get the hint when we never replied."
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Yeah, when I made my first tune I was proud of (not first ever tune lol) I put it on here and people seemed to dig it, then I never got as good response for anything else after so I just stopped posting shit on here lol.
But yeah as someone said before, I know it doesnt take much effort to send an e-mail, but maybe the people just choose more carefully who to send music to and just cos they dont send music to Micky again, doesnt mean they have given up music cos of a bad response. I'm not saying that everyone does though, maybe some new producers are pussywads who throw their NI and Waves filled macs in the bin after not getting a reply on their first tunes haha
But yeah as someone said before, I know it doesnt take much effort to send an e-mail, but maybe the people just choose more carefully who to send music to and just cos they dont send music to Micky again, doesnt mean they have given up music cos of a bad response. I'm not saying that everyone does though, maybe some new producers are pussywads who throw their NI and Waves filled macs in the bin after not getting a reply on their first tunes haha
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Great thread, this has been on my mind lately since i've switched DAW's and changed my work process up a bit. Not gonna start sending tunes until i'm 100% ready, and have a lot of tunes that i'm confident in. For now it's all just about obtaining knowledge and honing skills
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you shouldnt be concerned about having that reputation, sounds like ur afraid of tryingCapture pt wrote:This thread is eye opening.
I started producing when I was 18, and I'm now thundering towards 24. It's mental how much you mature and your mentality changes in that time.
When I got my first tunes down some other producers were giving me props which was great, so I thought "fuck it why not" and sent shit to labels. (Properly addressed emails with etiquette, not just spammed out.)
Then as I sort of got older and a bit more mature I thought that was perhaps the amateur "carpet bomb" approach and I'd reign it in a bit. We've started up a local night here which I have residency at so I thought I'd just like to meet the headliners and chill, not make it about the music but maybe one day a headliner might hear one of my tracks when I play out and be like "Yeah I'd love to have that track."
So now I just stick tracks up on Soundcloud, record mixes every now and then, but generally leave it at that.
After reading this thread I might start sending out tracks again. In bunches of two at a time or something.
(IMO) My tracks are leaps and bounds above what I was making when I was 18/19 (As they should be) so in theory I should be more confident about sending labels dubs, but oddly I'm hesitant as I don't want a reputation of "That producer who spammed us a bunch and didn't get the hint when we never replied."
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