Xbox one

[rockonin]

Oddworld wont be released to Xbox One or 360 for a while, if at all. Ha ha
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... r-xbox-360

[deadly_habit]

Oh god it keeps getting better:

PS4 Games Demoed on PS4 Dev Kits Says Blow, Xbox One Games Spotted Running on PCs With Nvidia Cards

It just keeps getting worse for Microsoft: After facing a consumer backlash over DRM, a bizarrely high price and no love on Amazon, a new scandal has emerged.

Earlier today, CinemaBlend commented on the fact that a broken Xbox One game returned to the Windows 7 home screen, and that, in a pic we could see that it was running on a Nvidia 700 series GTX GPU (the Xbox One uses AMD). The Battlefield 4 demo ‘running on Xbox One’ was also spotted to include the PC command ‘backspace’. While it sounded terrible – these are meant to be console games, CinemaBlend tried to put things into perspective:

Truth be told, none of this should be a surprise to most people given that all E3 demos run their games on high-end PCs; it’s a smoke and mirrors circus to sell the idea of the game, sort of like how pro wrestling sells the idea of fighting despite being scripted. We should all be used to it by now and it’s just common practice [from most studios] given that the devkits or comparable specs aren’t usually finalized at this point.

Turns out, however, that they are wrong. Developer of upcoming PS4/PC/iOS title The Witness Jonathan Blow tweeted (tweets ordered for clarity):

It is not true as the article says that “all E3 demos run on hi-end PCs”. The Witness was running on PS4 dev hardware, and it looked to me like all the other PS4 games were running on dev kits as well.

Dev hardware is the hardware that will be in the final retail box, but in a less consumer-oriented package.

Dev kits almost always have more RAM yeah. Better CPU+GPU, no…

All the indies I know were running on the PS4.

We worked very hard to get our game running on the actual PS4 hardware and operating system in time for the show. As did many other devs.

Sucker Punch’s Jason Connell added:

Yup, we were definitely on a dev kit. [For inFamous: Second Son]

Blow commented:

That is kind of crazy considering consoles are supposed to be on the shelves with these games in 5-6 months.

During Microsoft’s press show I was impressed by how good the games looked given the console’s specs. But if they weren’t running on those specs then it becomes pretty questionable.

I actually don’t want XB1 to fail because we need competition to keep things healthy.

And finally:

I’m seeing a lot of forum comments saying “it is no big deal, most E3 demos are on PCs”. False. I wonder if this is “reputation management”.

This whole thing sounds utterly bizarre: has Microsoft been essentially lying to journalists and viewers with games running on completely different hardware? Aliens: Colonial Marines drew intense criticism after it was revealed that journalists played a better version of the game than was actually released, and it’s hard not to feel deja vu.

Could Sony capitalize off of the fact that the PS4 seems far more along? Is Microsoft hiding yet another thing? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/201 ... or-launch/

Oh yeah and PS4 is currently outdoing Xbone presale wise 8:1 according to GameStop.

[Pistonsbeneath]

lol I get what you're saying DH but they're all as bad as each other...as if sony aren't shady as well....it's just currently xbox's turn to get the hate

wasn't the ps3 way more than a 360 for ages?

pretty sure that's why I never decided to go with a ps3...

All these guys are ruthless money obsessed wankers...not just Xbox

this all for some reason has my sensors on full alert to something weird going on given the supply of information and inept PR from microsoft....maybe it's sony's turn?

[Forum]

At least with that price tag they might have actually built this one properly..

[hugh]

looks like Microsoft are truly fucked.
RIP Xbone, dead before you were even alive

[deadly_habit]

Honestly I completely skipped last gen as far as purchasing consoles, hell my PC emulates Wii better than actual Wii hardware, and the only exclusive I was holding out on was The Last Guardian (and still am).
I might get a PS4, not at release and compared to PC these next gen consoles are dated tech and also a smaller market share.
Not like I don't have a backlog of PC games and even old PS2 and before games as is, and I'm sure quite a few other gamers do as well.
Sony is at least adapting to what the market wants and moving to PC architecture which is bringing in more willing devs, Microsoft is just getting worse and worse with each iteration and they're still babies in the console game compared to the competition.

As far as being money obsessed, well duh gaming is a multi-billion dollar yearly industry, and I think this is one of the first times Sony is selling a new console not at a loss.

[Pistonsbeneath]

pretty sure all consoles are sold at a loss and the profit all comes from content and games

[deadly_habit]

Previous ones were, at least for Sony. Pretty sure they reported they're not selling at a loss for the PS4 though since they moved to standard PC architecture.

[Reese_Liar]

^ They did.

In regards to the article, didn't that exact same thing happen last generation when they were showing off the 360/PS3?
Honestly it doesn't really bother me that much as long as the console run as they're supposed to at launch. I can understand bringing something less prone to crashing when you're still trying to work out the last kinks of your console.

That being said, with all the outrage against MS lately I'm sure they're not happy. Yet another nail in the coffin it seems...

[SloppySeconds]

people who still defend xbox to death after all of this literally piss me off unquestionably, their motto for people who don't have internet is "we already have a console for people who want to play offline, the xbox 360" yeah that's a great answer.

[sigbowls]

backwords compatibility > nice graphics

sony and microsoft need to learn some stuff from nintendo

[gαммα]

i agree that backwards compatibility would be nice, but:

the difficulty and time required to make backwards compatibility work with completely different hardware and architecture is insane
why do you care about the new console if you are going to be playing old games

if you already have the previous console and you are complaining about backwards compatibility you're just lazy.

[sigbowls]

the ps3 is popular so i guess you right

[gαммα]

i'd like to add that i think sony are stnuc for removing backwards compatibility from later ps3 models
but the "it takes too much work to make it work" argument is a fair one

[sigbowls]

xbox did the same thing to keep the cost down

[pkay]

so basically you bitches are crying about something steam, ea, every MMO, and almost every app/game on a phone is doing already? It's not like if your net goes down your unit is bricked until its back.

stop being alarmists. btw in what weird ass world will you be toting your xbox one around where you dont have wifi? unless you live on a farm or are a gypsy I don't see this being a catastrophic issue for anyone in the position to buy an xbox one in the first place.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

you should get a job at microsoft.

[gαммα]

we're crying because the xbox one is an anti-consumerist pile of shit, that will likely go the way of the dreamcast and wii-u.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

except the dreamcast was actually good... and at least nintendo support the indie community.

[pkay]

DSF playing internet white knight and being mad on behalf of countries not getting access to xbox one at the same time as the 'west'

.... conveniently ignoring the entire history of gaming prior to a console being built by a north american company



way to buy in to gamer blog hype.

PS: no one in japan bought the xbox. no one in japan is upset about this.