Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
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Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Hey guys,basically i am trying to figure out how to make the sound ducking only in
specific frequencies,for example at 200hz if sidechained to a snare,without having the whole signal ducking.
CAMO&KROOKED are explaining that this is the optimal way to sidechain for
maximum loudness in the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axkr-rKDumQ @ 4:32 mins.
Since im not on fl,anyone knows of any way to do that on ableton or with any vst compressor?
thanks
specific frequencies,for example at 200hz if sidechained to a snare,without having the whole signal ducking.
CAMO&KROOKED are explaining that this is the optimal way to sidechain for
maximum loudness in the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axkr-rKDumQ @ 4:32 mins.
Since im not on fl,anyone knows of any way to do that on ableton or with any vst compressor?
thanks
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Try using an automation clip turning the eq on and off or automating the cut amount if you want it smoother. Then just copy/paste it wherever the snare clips are
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On Ableton I'm pretty sure you can do it with the multiband compressor or auto-filter audio effects.
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Go to glitchhopforum and search for simteks linear phase frequency splitter (ableton audio effect rack)
Mess with the knobs until you've got the 200hz area selected (more or less, you'll have extra but no big) in the middle band.
Throw a compressor there after the eq (rack), sidechain accordingly
Can also do this with kick + clap for dance music (if necessary)
Mess with the knobs until you've got the 200hz area selected (more or less, you'll have extra but no big) in the middle band.
Throw a compressor there after the eq (rack), sidechain accordingly
Can also do this with kick + clap for dance music (if necessary)
Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Just split the signal into frequency bands and sidechain those bands?
Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
It is a lot easier than all these suggestions... Just stick any multiband compressor with a sidechain input on the track you want to compress - restrict one of the bands to 170 - 220 Hz (to taste) and aim it at the snare track!


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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Ascian wrote:It is a lot easier than all these suggestions... Just stick any multiband compressor with a sidechain input on the track you want to compress - restrict one of the bands to 170 - 220 Hz (to taste) and aim it at the snare track!
OP, do the multiband compressor. it was made for this shit.dubunked wrote:On Ableton I'm pretty sure you can do it with the multiband compressor or auto-filter audio effects.
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Melda dynamic eq. Say no more
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Can't you just stick an eq in the sidechain path?
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
AAbleton's multiband compressor suffers from phase issues. That's why you should do what i suggested.
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
By sending the signal into busses with eq's on them? You'll end up with shitloads of busses if you're gonna do that to many tracks.RmoniK wrote:Just split the signal into frequency bands and sidechain those bands?
Or did I miss something?
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Well since we're assuming OP uses ableton, use audio effect racks. I'm not familiar enough with other DAWs (apart from reason) to know how that would work.bouncingfish wrote:By sending the signal into busses with eq's on them? You'll end up with shitloads of busses if you're gonna do that to many tracks.RmoniK wrote:Just split the signal into frequency bands and sidechain those bands?
Or did I miss something?
Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Fucking tell me about itclaudedefaren wrote:AAbleton's multiband compressor suffers from phase issues.

Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Did you guys read the post?
He want's it to only duck at 200hz. So stick an EQ between the trigger and the sidechain input.
He want's it to only duck at 200hz. So stick an EQ between the trigger and the sidechain input.
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
he wants the compressed signal to duck at 200 Hz. Not to only trigger when the input hits at 200 hz.AxeD wrote:Did you guys read the post?
He want's it to only duck at 200hz. So stick an EQ between the trigger and the sidechain input.
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Aha, ok. I'm also interested in this but in Logic i would have to set this up with busses, one bus for los, one for lo mids, one for hi mids etc.RmoniK wrote:Well since we're assuming OP uses ableton, use audio effect racks. I'm not familiar enough with other DAWs (apart from reason) to know how that would work.bouncingfish wrote:By sending the signal into busses with eq's on them? You'll end up with shitloads of busses if you're gonna do that to many tracks.RmoniK wrote:Just split the signal into frequency bands and sidechain those bands?
Or did I miss something?
There must be another way!
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Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
I think you guys are miss understanding something. Compressors will only compress the whole signal, it is not frequency dependent. By filtering the sidechain signal you are only letting the threshold 'hear' what you want it to hear to trigger. For example, if you want to use a drum kit as a sidechain input, you can filter everything out but the kick to trigger the sidechain.RmoniK wrote:he wants the compressed signal to duck at 200 Hz. Not to only trigger when the input hits at 200 hz.AxeD wrote:Did you guys read the post?
He want's it to only duck at 200hz. So stick an EQ between the trigger and the sidechain input.
Its a general miss conception that crops up all the time, but basically you either need a dynamic eq (check melda free demo) or a multi-band comp (I wouldn't recommend it this way)
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That's what i'm saying.
To be honest, the easiest way i can think of to do this if you can't split frequency easily is to duplicate the signal (bass or whatever). then on the duplicate channel, use a sidechain GATE, so the signal only comes through when the snare hits. The filter out the signal so it's only the stuff you want to go away when the snare kicks in. Then reverse the phase of that entire channel. It should work but you might get some phasing.
To be honest, the easiest way i can think of to do this if you can't split frequency easily is to duplicate the signal (bass or whatever). then on the duplicate channel, use a sidechain GATE, so the signal only comes through when the snare hits. The filter out the signal so it's only the stuff you want to go away when the snare kicks in. Then reverse the phase of that entire channel. It should work but you might get some phasing.
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Yeah that could work, but its a bit complicated and unnecessary.
Have you guys tried the melda dyn eq? Its such a good eq and sick for sidechaining its eq bands dynamically.
Have you guys tried the melda dyn eq? Its such a good eq and sick for sidechaining its eq bands dynamically.
Re: Freq. specific sidechain(peak controlling)
Or that
I rarely use VSTs apart from synths, i should probably give it a try.

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