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mthrfnk
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Re: Clipping Drums

Post by mthrfnk » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:28 pm

Xrossfade wrote:
gαммα wrote:bares tunes are shit (imo) and he is a complete tnuc. (fact)

also the sub in that tune isnt even that loud haha, sounds to me like the tune is clipping in a bad way



^thats a loud sub

just mix your tune well and you can turn the sub as loud as you want
pretty sick tune. how come bare is a tnuc, do you have personal experience?
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Re: Clipping Drums

Post by Hashkey » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:06 pm

mthrfnk wrote:I don't think the drums in the original track sound that great at all tbh... they're just louder than the rest of the track. The mix itself is quite full of noise and lacks clarity. The snare imo is too noisey vs. tonal punch.

Also you're saying the drums are at +7dB but then you say you're using Ozone on the master, so presumably you're limiting the track to below 0dB? In which case you're not really clipping the drums: limiting decreases the difference between the quietest and loudest parts of a song by making the loud bits quieter and vice versa, so by pumping the clipped signal into your master you're forcing your limiter to bring down the level anyway thus negating the point of you pumping in the hot signal. Ozone's limiter specifically has a few different look ahead functions, so in your case it's going be seeing a +7dB peak incoming and lower/compress the whole mix to make up for that, bring the level back to 0dB. In your case it just sounds like the drums are pushing everything else out of the mix and the final track sounds overly compressed.

You don't need to clip (specifically digitally clip) or brickwall elements to make them loud in the mix. What are you producing on (setup wise) btw? Because if you truly are clipping everything in your mix so much - it should be noticeable to you and imo overly clipped stuff (especially a lot of elements within a track) doesn't sound great, I'm not saying clipping is bad and not to do it... but there are other ways to get your mix louder/punchier and retain full clarity. The fact is all you're really doing is overloading your master buss and forcing Ozone to bring your track back below 0dB to avoid true clipping.
As mthrfnk Said! Sounds yeah Loud but somehow messy and overcompressed :/.

Dunno I don't like the mix at all but I must say that the Idea of the song is really good.

I'd probably just saturate those samples but not clip them digitally.
Get a nice Saturation plugin and push those kick and snare trough it soft clipping em, you can get marvellous results.
Oh and another thing, The snare sounds completely in another room. Have you used completely another reverb for it?
Plus! there are some imaging problems since switching the track to mono summing looses some consistent bass.

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