OfficeSteppers '13 (aka the offtopic but still prod. thread)

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:01 pm

^Yea. I'm doing about half my process out of the box now. Actually routing cables and getting the signal flow right is more effort than many people probably imagine : )

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:35 pm

When does Komplete usually go on sale? I am so getting it

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:00 pm

Genevieve wrote:When does Komplete usually go on sale? I am so getting it

I thought it was around Christmas and New Years...the big 50% off sale.

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:06 pm

They did a summer sale around about this time last year IIRC. Not seen any word of it this year, however.

EDIT - Just found this;

http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=16321

Crimsonghost · Post by **Crimsonghost** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:30 pm

@SunkLo; any advice or making bass traps? I'm going to have to set up a new office/studio since I'm moving soon. Figured I might as well do it right.

SunkLo · Post by **SunkLo** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:38 pm

For bass traps you have to go for thickness. The thicker the panel and the larger the distance from the wall, the lower the frequencies that will be absorbed. Corner traps make it easy to get a larger air gap compared to mounting flat on a wall. To really do it right you should pick up a measurement mic to assess the problems of the room and gauge the effectiveness of various placements.

You can calculate the nodes with the room dimensions. There's some online calculators that will do this for you I believe. Then you can calculate the wavelengths of those nodes to figure out the optimal thickness and placement of your traps.

You'll probably need some broadband absorption as well. The standard flat mounted panels work well for this. If you bore holes in the side of the frames, you'll expose more surface area and increase the efficiency.

If you can get traps in all the corners, and some broadband absorbers at the first reflection points and on the front and back walls, you should notice a considerable improvement.

Really the best advice I can give you is to read like a madman. There's lots of trap building threads on Gearslutz, Ethan Winer's site and forum, etc. You can pick up some nice plans and see progress pics of other people's projects too.

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:03 pm

wub wrote:They did a summer sale around about this time last year IIRC. Not seen any word of it this year, however.

EDIT - Just found this;

http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=16321

So you're saying, instead of a Komplete sale they did this?

LogiSpark · Post by **LogiSpark** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:15 pm

Genevieve wrote:
wub wrote:They did a summer sale around about this time last year IIRC. Not seen any word of it this year, however.

EDIT - Just found this;

http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=16321
So you're saying, instead of a Komplete sale they did this?

Well this sucks, I really want Komplete also and they just make a sale for Reaktor. I'm sure that almost everyone has Reaktor especially when Razor was introduced

Crimsonghost · Post by **Crimsonghost** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:07 am

SunkLo wrote:For bass traps you have to go for thickness. The thicker the panel and the larger the distance from the wall, the lower the frequencies that will be absorbed. Corner traps make it easy to get a larger air gap compared to mounting flat on a wall. To really do it right you should pick up a measurement mic to assess the problems of the room and gauge the effectiveness of various placements.

You can calculate the nodes with the room dimensions. There's some online calculators that will do this for you I believe. Then you can calculate the wavelengths of those nodes to figure out the optimal thickness and placement of your traps.

You'll probably need some broadband absorption as well. The standard flat mounted panels work well for this. If you bore holes in the side of the frames, you'll expose more surface area and increase the efficiency.

If you can get traps in all the corners, and some broadband absorbers at the first reflection points and on the front and back walls, you should notice a considerable improvement.

Really the best advice I can give you is to read like a madman. There's lots of trap building threads on Gearslutz, Ethan Winer's site and forum, etc. You can pick up some nice plans and see progress pics of other people's projects too.

Thanks for that

Ill keep reading.

Crimsonghost · Post by **Crimsonghost** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:23 am

Guess i should have known what to search for

Five minutes later and i know how to make them. Super easy. I guess the hard part will be just knowing how many i need and where to place them.

wub · Post by **wub** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:18 am

Been vibing this today;

Soundcloud

Specifically the bit around 56m17s just made me go woooooooooah and rewind the mix to listen back. Amazing sounds.

wub · Post by **wub** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:20 pm

I torrented several of the latest DAWs, sampled packs, and a few cracked VSTs but after nearly two months of using them and pressing buttons randomly I'm still not signed. What am I doing wrong?

I feel like I haven't downloaded the right software yet to make some proper big tunes, can someone recommend what DAW does this? Also, in terms of sound design/arrangement/chords/melody creation/terminology/mastering/compression/contacting labels I'm still in the dark even after all this time. Is there a video somewhere that explains exactly what I need to do, preferably with a patch/PDF/additional bit of software to download so I don't need to pay attention.

I notice there is a Search function but it didn't spoonfeed me exactly the right answer I wanted so I've just made a new thread instead.

Sound familiar? Good. You're all fucking lazy.

The problem with all of these sorts of thread recently is that everyone is just coming across as a lazy tnuc. "I've been producing xyz amount of time and still haven't been signed, what haven't I torrented that I need?"

YAWN. Do hard work and stop looking for the easy option.

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:43 pm

^Is that actually a quote from a post?!

I mean I know there are one's that saying the same thing, if a little less straightforward. At least in the states, we live in a very weird entitlement culture (trust me...I see how bad it is as an Uni adjunct). Mix that with a desire to make music to get famous (money bitches whatevs) and you've a really weird and potentially toxic situation. The problem is, the fans come from the same culture. The are more in love with the idea of the DJ/producer (famemoneybitches) than the music too!

This could be the best time for music ever in history, especially music made all on a computer. If you've got a computer and internet connection, you don't have to spend another dime! And there is a lot of great music out there, for free or cheap, and totally outside of the totally fucked music industry.

The question is...which side is going to win? Which will become dominant. TBH, I don't feel like the pop-industry is winning. There are so many pockets of things happening on the internet...we know THEY have lost a lot of people's attention.

wub · Post by **wub** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:48 pm

Devalue the tools and people devalue the need to learn the skills of those tools. If a DAW comes for free, why bother learning when you can just ask on forums? Not like you invested any money, so why invest any time?

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:50 pm

wub wrote:Devalue the tools and people devalue the need to learn the skills of those tools. If a DAW comes for free, why bother learning when you can just ask on forums? Not like you invested any money, so why invest any time?

Exactly. I think we repeat this a lot and nobody listens. If I can bring up teaching again, more often than not, the best students are the ones who are working their way through college or somehow else actually aware of the crushing debt they are putting themselves in to be their.

The rest of them treat it like some kind of vacation.

SunkLo · Post by **SunkLo** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:55 pm

I built my own PC, coded my own audio plugins, composed and mixed all my tracks from scratch and signed myself to my own record label. Come at me bro.

Actually not yet.

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:04 am

Case in point;

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=275660

"How do I make this?"
"Do this, this and this"
"That's too complicated, can you do it for me?"

Triphosphate · Post by **Triphosphate** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:12 am

wub wrote:Case in point;

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=275660

Holy shit that's embarrassing even as a reader. Hey wub, can you make that a preset for me? Turning knobs is hard. On second thought, can you just arrange that into a song for me? I'll just go ahead and put my name on it.

SunkLo · Post by **SunkLo** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:36 pm

Yeah I've noticed such a large amount of noob threads lately. "I've been producing for 5 months but haven't actually taught myself anything, so can you guys tell me how to become an amazing producer?"

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:38 pm

It's like going onto a car forum and asking "hey guys, stole a car this weekend, someone want to come and give me free lessons on how to drive?"

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