Junglists getting angry about people jumping ships !

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:49 am

yep - she's cute.

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:53 am

thought she might be...

...don't get no ugly chix makin it in this game

sad but true...

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:55 am

some of her music aint bad! anyway less of this odissi chat, dont want marcus breathing down my neck

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:59 am

chur chur...

...heard marcus is a hefty lad too

doesn't think much of me from what i heard through the grapevine...

...not many people do at least not in the virtual world

8bitwonder · Post by **8bitwonder** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:02 am

Dept of Hell Science wrote:chur chur...

...heard marcus is a hefty lad too

doesn't think much of me from what i heard through the grapevine...

...not many people do at least not in the virtual world

yeah i get that feelin bout me too mate dont worry

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:23 am

these arguments are so fucking boring and pointless i cant understand why anyone puts the effort into contributing, oh shit I just did .

too many people interested in branding themsleves with one genre and not concentrating on the music they like. Some people getting confused with people who call themsleves jungalists and are into mainstream D&B and just jungle or ragga jungle like soundmurder and sk1, general malice.

RubiconMan · Post by **RubiconMan** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:54 pm

auralassassin wrote:I love Jungle, it's the DnB that is shit.

Sort it out, and maybe I'll listen... I haven't listened to DnB like... ever. JUNGLE is the SHIT!!!

my sentiments exactly

dub boy · Post by **dub boy** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:00 pm

I think a younger crowd is into 'general' dnb these days. Most dubsteppa's are a bit older and have moved on from dnb and are looking for new sounds. Enter dubstep.

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:22 pm

I Like both but my heart is in dubstep!

i listen to kool fm all the time!

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:24 pm

i love oldskool jungle. that has influenced my production massivly. but that aint hard to see.

battlemode · Post by **battlemode** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:25 pm

REMARC REMARC REMARC

There is some absolutely excellent dnb still being produced. Vibez recordings, paradox, equinox, bizzy b, soundmurderer + sk1 etc. I think part of the problem is that DnB is fairly old as a scene now. Because of this it's much harder to get noticed doing something original, you have to write something that fabio n groovebox is gonna play on radio one else you don't get a look in. Sad really.

Big up dubstep!

sek [espionage] · Post by **sek [espionage]** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:45 pm

I’ve noticed that quite a few people on here like the old school style of dnb. thats cool.

I’ll be brutally honest; the neurofunk sound is what always got me going. *ducks flying tomatoes*
Wormhole, Sleepwalk, Fear of people, Prototype Years etc..
That fine line between dark aggression and a simple funk groove was such a wicked sound imo.
Somewhere around 2003 neurofunk morphed into over produced speed beats and 90% of my dnb friends turned into coke heads.

It should be said though, if photek, teebee, klute, matrix, fierce, break, skc, calibre or d bridge are in town.. I’ll still be there with bells on.

jaykay · Post by **jaykay** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:54 pm

DnB has always had this kind of rivalry with the old uk garage scene for example. Maybe it's because both scenes share so many similarites? But it's pointless bickering over things like this... probably mostly younger/newer recruits to either keen to prove some sort of allegiance.

Both scenes have good and bad points, I tend to find dubstep more exciting right now, but let me here anything but someone like Equinox or Bizzy B and right back in it.

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:14 pm

there is no rivalry is there lol?? u lot r mad ...is it like 'the warriors' LOL?? im no massive fan of dnb but tune like 'shadowboxing ' r too shower!!
i loved jungle tho n still dooOOO ..cuz its alll
DOCTAAAAAAH DRED DRED DRED BRAP BRAP POW LOLOL!!!WWWWOWOWOWOWVROOOOM BAP BAP JUNGLISM JUNGLISM LOL

in fact.. 'Terminator' was the third record i ever bought ..and is still the best one i have ..BAD MAN TUNE !!

rickyricardo · Post by **rickyricardo** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:23 pm

J_J wrote: in fact.. 'Terminator' was the third record i ever bought ..and is still the best one i have ..BAD MAN TUNE !!

"the terminator is out there...."

"you're telling me about things I haven't even done yet..."

man, that tune is awesome. Still gives me chills when I hear it.

der mac · Post by **der mac** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:27 pm

For me Music at all is very serious. If it´s well done. No response to the Haters. No Chance for Music-sizan and egotrippin.

Last Weeekend i heard some "real" hardcore junglists talking.

"Real Junglists must stink" LOL

I`m into D&B n Jungle since .......puhhh, dont know. The same Discussion at last about garage n 2step.

municiple · Post by **municiple** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:31 pm

Maybe I am just not clued into these politics, but is there a reason people cannot like both jungle and dubstep? I mean, why does it have to be one or the other?

der mac · Post by **der mac** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:38 pm

Dont know what the reason is. The same thing INSIDE the scenes.

Neuro is the one and only, fuck clownstep

or

EEK, Oldskool. Go away with that crap. Where does this Raveculture come from? I watch it a very long time. IT`s like a War of confessions. Let the people listen and do what they want.

I dont understand this.

Jumpin Ships???? Politics??? for whom??

battlemode · Post by **battlemode** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:10 pm

To be honest, a style of music starts to die when people label it too aggressively. Dubstep, like every other style, is suceptable to that danger. It's not too hard to imagine, maybe 2 or 3 years down the line, that the inovation stops because everything has narrowed down and people are making the same sounding shit in an attempt to get airplay. That's what happened to dnb. I'm certain that there are people who're saying this about grime or whatever, even now. Some people don't like change at all, some people do. DnB now is an example of a music that has pretty much stopped evolving. There's people who are still pushing boundaries but the majority of it is at a dead end. As a result, the old skool stuff still sounds fresh because it is far more varied, it took a certain level of evolution/devolution before the rot set in and you get Pendulum as an end result.

Anyone who remembers what happened to the Certificate 18 label will know what i'm on about. An awesome forward thinking label that people shunned because they had the balls to release an autechre remix of a jungle tune (which incidentally was an absolutely wicked track). "Ohhh that's not 2step drum n bass, avoid!". Pathetic. DnB had its chance to evolve, like garage did into grime or whatever, but it totally missed out, it's only legacy is in the influence it had on dubstep.

Dubstep at the moment is really forward thinking but no more so than drum n bass/jungle at its height in about 1994-5. Keep the innovation, defy the labelling, try not to stick to strict definitions, else the end product is this awful clownstep rollocks the dnb scene has become. I don't want to think about what the dubstep version of that level of wackness would sound like.

der mac · Post by **der mac** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:16 pm

battlemode wrote:, try not to stick to strict definitions, else the end product is this awful clownstep rollocks the dnb scene has become.

alclownstep is a style also, first created by an originator and copied 2 tousands. But you`re right, its very difficult 2 find the right with love made records.

everyone is influenced by something. You have only to do what you think is the best for your music. 1 2 1 copies are at most wack. but un-influenced is nobody

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