Dubstep musician with 'real' day jobs

[DRTY]

how much would you have to be earning from gigs to be able to claim back records? enough to get taxed presumably?

Anything... remember though you're not claiming back anything... you're deducting expense from income (therefore lowering taxable income).

[Pedro Sánchez]

sure you can. businessmen do it all the time, why can't you?

Nah you can't... not in the UK anyway. You cannot claim alcohol as an expense For a few years now, entertaining (like, take a client out for lunch) is also not a legitimate expense.

And you can't claim the VAT back on anything unless you're VAT registered. But you could and should claim your vinyl as an expense (which means its cost is deducted from your taxable income).

And yeah internet is a legitimate cost. THough not 100% of it. If you're claiming 100% of it's cost you're liable to provide proof of it being 100% for work activities.

Ain't the VAT registration threshold over 60 grand, I doubt any Dubstep 'musicians' are bringing in that, maybe a few who run labels, maybe.

[New Sense]

I wonder which ones are taking home amounts like that?

[DRTY]

sure you can. businessmen do it all the time, why can't you?

Nah you can't... not in the UK anyway. You cannot claim alcohol as an expense For a few years now, entertaining (like, take a client out for lunch) is also not a legitimate expense.

And you can't claim the VAT back on anything unless you're VAT registered. But you could and should claim your vinyl as an expense (which means its cost is deducted from your taxable income).

And yeah internet is a legitimate cost. THough not 100% of it. If you're claiming 100% of it's cost you're liable to provide proof of it being 100% for work activities.

Ain't the VAT registration threshold over 60 grand, I doubt hardly any Dubstep 'musicians' are bringing in that.

I should think quite a few earn over 60k, its 79k atm I think (for compulsory vat reg). Though DJs wouldn't be charging VAT directly, the agencies would be, as the agencies are basically contractors. The DJs are self employed. Though I guess if a DJ is earning over 79k then they would have to charge the agencies VAT. (I'm not 100% on that)

[chekov]

how much would you have to be earning from gigs to be able to claim back records? enough to get taxed presumably?

Anything... remember though you're not claiming back anything... you're deducting expense from income (therefore lowering taxable income).

ahh ok, cheers

[Forum]

I should think quite a few earn over 60k,

Only the kind we never mention on this forum

[DRTY]

I wonder which ones are taking home amounts like that?

more than you think probably! let's say a DJ plays 52 gigs a year... (that's 1 gig a week; very conservative for a 'big' name), and earns £900 a show (also conservative); boom £46,800

[kidshuffle]

sure you can. businessmen do it all the time, why can't you?

Nah you can't... not in the UK anyway. You cannot claim alcohol as an expense For a few years now, entertaining (like, take a client out for lunch) is also not a legitimate expense.

That is a goddamn shame. Its perfectly legal here to do so

[jrkhnds]

Only the kind we never mention on this forum

as long as continental europe doesn't have to pay twice the booking fee UK promoters pay, I could name you quite a few DJs/producers making considerably more than 60 grand a year. apart from skream and benga, obviously.

[rorz9992]

Only the kind we never mention on this forum

as long as continental europe doesn't have to pay twice the booking fee UK promoters pay, I could name you quite a few DJs/producers making considerably more than 60 grand a year. apart from skream and benga, obviously.

Yeah this. There's obviously expenses to take into consideration like airport food etc which doesn't sound like a big deal but it all adds up, but you can make a fairly decent living even as a mid-level DJ. Only problem is it isn't always a long-term career... you're usually 'cool' for several years or so then the amount of bookings you get goes down etc, respect to those who have been able to do it for decades though

[wolf89]

I reckon Richie Hawtin is fucking loaded after hearing what he's asked for booking fee wise before.

[Pedro Sánchez]

I reckon Richie Hawtin is fucking loaded after hearing what he's asked for booking fee wise before.

Yeah, he is way up there on the booking fees but he deserves to be, he's put in the hours.

[wolf89]

Shame he's now a boring pretentious nob though now

[rorz9992]

I used to do flyering / promo work for a few promoters in my uni days... they said that the house / techno / electro DJs they would book for nights charged loads compared to the drum n bass / dubstep DJs they would book for other nights. £10k-15k for some of them for a 1.5-2 hour set. At this point dubstep was not as big as it is now but even the top D&B artists at this time were only asking for a fraction of this amount.

[LA_Boxers]

Pretty sure I read that South London Ordnance works at BM Soho now. He is definitely over 16 too.

http://www.blisspop.com/blog/2013/03/14 ... -ordnance/

Also I know Kromestar and a few others used to work in the Home Office in Croydon a few years back. Dont think theyre still there tho.

[dooshbhag]

Pretty sure South London Ordinance is/was a Lawyer or something? Maybe Graphic Design.
Foreign Concept was a Banker.
Mistabishi was a Banker.
Brian Eno makes all the sounds for Windows apparently. Like every single one. But I guess that's still just making music at the end of the day.
Ben UFO has/had some kind of office job.
Apparently Datsik was a Pizza boy.
Burial worked in a Bar or something between or before the Full Lengths.

ok wtf m3

brian eno is a dabstop producer now? i think south london ordnance is like 16 years old or something

You petty, petty bitch.

[zionlion18]

I heard Mosca used to be the editor of some magazine or still is, heard it years back on the MAH show?

[titchbit]

pokes did "manual labor for 10 years" or some shit

[prisoner]

I heard Mosca used to be the editor of some magazine or still is, heard it years back on the MAH show?

he used to run bruk (i think, it's been awhile) it was only online though, more of a blog then a magazine....

[lloydnoise]

Hatcha was/is a roofer

mate it's spelt "loefah"

nah
he answered the phone when he was up on a roof once