Moving To L.A, Cali for ICON Collective Production School!

[mks]

Seeing how much Dubspot has grown over the last few of years there seems to be a demand for this sort of thing.

I would rather spend the money building a studio myself.

[ChromaRhythm]

>"money can't buy you talent"
>drops 15k on attempting to buy talent


wut

there's a difference between talent & skill....or as i believe

[SunkLo]

I like how you glossed over the other 3 pages of thread.

[Crimsonghost]

I like how you glossed over the other 3 pages of thread.

Reading is SO last year.

[SunkLo]

I like how you glossed over the other 3 pages of thread.

Reading is SO last year.

I'll teach you how for 4 grand.

[ehbes]

I should have gone and had an adventure so I had something to write about. Now I teach essay writing to fucking retard freshmen at a crappy state Uni.

That's what the booze is for.

no the booze are for me so that i can drown out the fact that i just learned my roommate is ROTC

[ChromaRhythm]

So, it's been a few months now that you've been at the school.

Can you PLEASE give us an update to how the experience has been there? School, what you've learned, what you've made, life in LA, etc?

Also, it'd be great if you could give us an explanation of how you made it work logistically. Did you just graduate from school with extra money? Did you quit your job? Personally, I just graduated from college, but I still need a job, so I'm curious.

Short Explanation: This school is dope.

[ehbes]

but is it worth 15 grand....

[ChromaRhythm]

but is it worth 15 grand....

Compared to a normal college and it's fees plus for what I'm aiming to do?

Yeah.

P.S I got over 380gb of samples and 100gb of vsts now also. Wink wink. Hint hint. yeah you should go to a production school.

A sausage party full of usb sticks BRO. Trading shit like pokeman cards

[ehbes]

ok last few questions:

1: what is it that you are aiming to do?
2: how does this program help you accomplish your goal faster (compared to not attending)
3: who's paying the bill and if it isnt you would you still recommend it if you were the one paying the 15K

[SunkLo]

A normal college is gonna give you a degree that's relevant to a job though. How many studios give a fuck about some producing diploma? I've read lots of studio owners and engineers say they actually dislike hiring graduates of these production schools. The whole thing is silly anyway because it's a creative field. It's like going to art school and expecting to finish as an amazing artist and start putting your work in galleries. The benefit is really only being forced to work on your craft for a period of time. If you're serious enough to drop 15k you should have enough focus to sit down every day and teach yourself. It was nowhere near as simple pre-internet, but these days it's a piece of cake. Between all the tutorial videos and books available online, as well as easily available plugins that replace expensive physical hardware, you pretty much have access to everything you need already.

I just killed a ~650 page book on DSP that took a bit under a month to read, just chipping away at it an hour before bed. Assuming you averaged 1-2 books a month, that's 12-24 books a year. You could easily absorb all the necessary technical information within that span assuming you picked good books. And that's reading an hour or two a day. The rest of your waking hours can be devoted to putting what you learn into practice, which is by far the most important part of the learning process. Practicing at school or practicing at home, what's the difference? The only advantage would be having better gear at your disposal, which is nullified by the fact that you could invest that 15 grand on gear and actually own it when you're done. Once you get a basic footing you could intern or get an assistant job at a studio and learn on the job from working pros. I'm sure getting peptalks from guest producers is inspiring and all, but there's a much more pragmatic path to getting started working in the field.

Compare the relevance of a bachelor's of science or engineering in getting a job in their respective field vs getting a production diploma and actually getting anywhere. I've got two years of a CS degree down and I'm doubting I'll even go back to finish it because it's just a waste of money. Companies want to see that you have potential. A portfolio of code is worth much more than a slip of paper that says you sat through 4 years of classes. It's really hard to see the value in school now unless you want to be a doctor or something. Universities and colleges are really just ultimately business schemes. Definitely not worth the exorbitant tuition costs in my opinion. Especially given the fact that I can learn more sitting at home in pyjamas tooling around on the internet than I can sitting in a lecture hall listening to a barely comprehensible Indian man drone on at 8:30 in the morning. There's a lot of parallels between computer science and production; they're both ultimately subjective creative disciplines built upon a technical foundation. I think in both cases you're better off learning the technical material on your own and moving on to practicing the more crucial subjective component which can only be learned but not taught.

[Trichome]

>"money can't buy you talent"
>drops 15k on attempting to buy talent


wut

there's a difference between talent & skill....or as i believe

Not really... Talent = natural skill
When people say "you're so talented", usually they've learned it... So its hardly an accurate term

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So I asked my parents and had a 90% feeling they were going to say no but they were all down for it surprisingly and we thought of a plan and moved to LA 2 weeks later and attended the Spring Semester which started on April 1st which ends in December. And I thought to myself why didn't I do this earlier...like right after high school. but idk i'm a dumbass.

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The way this 'graph is written I thought his entire family moved to LA so he could go to ICON lol


Glad you feel like you are getting something out of it man. Going to school to do what I loved pretty much ruined it for me.

[ehbes]

So I asked my parents and had a 90% feeling they were going to say no but they were all down for it surprisingly and we thought of a plan and moved to LA 2 weeks later and attended the Spring Semester which started on April 1st which ends in December. And I thought to myself why didn't I do this earlier...like right after high school. but idk i'm a dumbass.

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The way this 'graph is written I thought his entire family moved to LA so he could go to ICON lol

Big up the subject verb agreement massive

[fragments]

I'm a nerd like that.

[ehbes]

It's ok, I have a first year writing class I have to take this year.. Fucking kill me the peer editing will be bad

[fragments]

It's ok, I have a first year writing class I have to take this year.. Fucking kill me the peer editing will be bad

Haha. Yea, a few semesters ago I had to define the word "contemporary" to a group of college freshmen. Good luck. Univs in the states are filled utterly ignorant fuckwads who chant "Cs get degrees" while doing keg stands and believing they will be handed the life mommy and daddy have after their six year vacation...

...if I didn't pass all the people that don't meet the course requirements, they'd fire me.

[dca]

glad youre enjoying it, I read the thread there is a lot of hate, but if you have access to the $$ and its reallyt what you want to do, its understandable

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

my last post in here was in a drunken state so take it with a pinch of salt. then rub it into your open wounds.

[Karoshi]

oh wow, sinestepper, fellow warringtonian!