Help with Phasers and Flangers

[Nevs]

I see these effects used in nearly every bass, however, when I try to use them it always ends up making the sound pretty crappy. The only remedy for it is to make it incredibly dry, but that makes the effect almost not audible, it doesn't add anything to the sound at that point. Could someone give me some practical tips for using these effects? When would you generally want to use them? Where in the effects chain? Typically on lows, mids, or highs? I'm talking exclusively for bass sounds here.

I've been trying to make some neuro Reese sounds but can't seem to get that phaser sound I always here in these to sound any good.

[LogiSpark]

Are you using stock phasers and flangers? most are not that good. Some might have lfos that give it a sweeping sound that could make you cringe. See Mromgwtf's thread on FX plugins for resampling

[Nevs]

Are you using stock phasers and flangers? most are not that good. Some might have lfos that give it a sweeping sound that could make you cringe. See Mromgwtf's thread on FX plugins for resampling

Yes I am using ableton live 9's built in phaser and flanger.

[smile]

Tips for phasers in bass sounds:
Use them to add movement by automating its frequency. Don't think of phasers like something super fancy, it's basically an EQ so use it similarly. I would advise using phasers quite aggressively early in the FX chain (before distortion and whatnot).

Tips for flangers in bass sounds:
Use subtly in highs or actually don't use them at all.

[sully_harmitage]

^^^
Phasing isn't basically EQing at all. (except for the comb filter effect you can get)

Anyway you could try doubling your patch and automating the pitch on one copy slightly, this'll give you manual control over phasing/flanging sounds

[smile]

Phasing isn't basically EQing at all. (except for the comb filter effect you can get)

As far as I've understood phasers are a series of BP-filters (stages) separated by a ratio (phase) from the fundamental, creating troughs in the freq spectrum.

Maybe I got it wrong, was ages I looked this sort of stuff up.

[sunny_b_uk]

they arent band pass filters in a phaser, they are 'all pass' filters.
just letting you know

[smile]

they arent band pass filters in a phaser, they are 'all pass' filters.
just letting you know

Thanks. Yep I get that now, read up about it. Sorry if i confused anyone.

That said, I work it similarly to an EQ that that works for me.