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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by Forum » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:49 am

The alternatives are that the rebels attacked themselves with chemical weapons to get support from US or that the US did it to give an excuse for invasion (no chance)
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by nitz » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:00 pm

What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:04 pm

War does not need to have a financial benefit to occur.
There are multiple ulterior motives for war.
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by hutyluty » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:06 pm

nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
idk really but well

1. the arms manufacturers make a killing again
2. Iran gets it's one major ally removed permanently
3. The oil producing states- saudi, qatar etc are placated and even more firmly in the american's pocket.
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by Gryphonyx » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:25 pm

I think Obama played this one to Cameron on the phone today

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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by MrBlack » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:33 pm

British and American troops are due to pull out of afghan in 2015 aren't they? It's pretty obvious that our governments need another war to keep them occupied with.
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:35 pm

MrBlack wrote:British and American troops are due to pull out of afghan in 2015 aren't they? It's pretty obvious that our governments need another war to keep them occupied with.
If I'm not mistaken, Obama used the troops pulling out of afghan as his way of upping votes.
They're still there though.
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by MrBlack » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:43 pm

Electric_Head wrote:
MrBlack wrote:British and American troops are due to pull out of afghan in 2015 aren't they? It's pretty obvious that our governments need another war to keep them occupied with.
If I'm not mistaken, Obama used the troops pulling out of afghan as his way of upping votes.
They're still there though.
I think he did, but he's lied about so much anyway. It doesn't matter when they leave though, because as soon as they do it'll all go tits up. Pretty much what happened in Vietnam, but governments don't learn from their mistakes do they. They've made thousands of soldiers redundant just so they don't have to pay them their full pension. Then proceed to recruit the same amount, basically conscripting them into the lower paid roles, saving themselves a nice wad of cash.
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:55 pm

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So you are more concerned for the unemployed soldiers than the senseless warfare causing numerous deaths.?? like in Vietnam.
And the way 10000 of young men go to war thinking they are doing the right thing for the freedom of their country.
But in the end they realize they have done nothing but further a governments greed.
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:05 pm

nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by Terpit » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:14 pm

This is complicated as fuck, the rebels aren't the 'good guys' btw, they have been doing awful stuff
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:17 pm

Terpit wrote:This is complicated as fuck, the rebels aren't the 'good guys' btw, they have been doing awful stuff
yea they actually are terrorists for a change.
With US funding too.

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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by NickUndercover » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:27 pm

Hezbollah joining the party and promising to reignite the southern Lebanon front in case of a US attack. This is gonna be one big clusterfuck
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by alphacat » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:48 pm

deadly habit wrote:
nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
Oil
I think in this case oil is actually secondary, or rather proximity to it since Syria is a relatively smaller producer.

I'll bet the House of Saud would love to see one of he two Shia-majority countries deballed though. That and many Muslims think Alawis (Assad's sect) are a little creepy.

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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:51 pm

alphacat wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
nitz wrote:What BENFIT is there for invading syria thought?
Oil
I think in this case oil is actually secondary, or rather proximity to it since Syria is a relatively smaller producer.

I'll bet the House of Saud would love to see one of he two Shia-majority countries deballed though. That and many Muslims think Alawis (Assad's sect) are a little creepy.
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by ezza » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:51 pm

if we get involved and then Russia wanna attack us... are we fucked?

cus thats long

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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:55 pm

Agent 47 wrote:if we get involved and then Russia wanna attack us... are we fucked?

cus thats long

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If Russia gets involved in anything China will as well, and the west will be fucked if they call up their debts.

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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by Terpit » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:56 pm

I think 'not looking morally repugnant' is the main benefit tbh
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Re: Syria: War Starting Thursday?

Post by ezza » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:56 pm

deadly habit wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:if we get involved and then Russia wanna attack us... are we fucked?

cus thats long

allow it cameron you wasteman
If Russia gets involved in anything China will as well, and the west will be fucked if they call up their debts.
what dya mean?

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