WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

[Alexandercunningham]

Azuk: Smooth blend of chip and dub, a bit too static tho, and there was this part in the middle, the main drop i think, which(here's a sentence i didn't think i'd be using on this forum) sounded just like a bunch of noise.

Gurnumsburg: Shit man, the competition on this forum is freakin tight! Real smooth samples, great vibe and cool drums as fuck man. Only thing tho would mabye to rethink the vox arrangement, make it more choppy and get focus on a more focused message.

tripwire22: Cool track, real trippy and prolly gonna kill at the club. if you could slip in a cool sample of some dude sayin some bad ass shit, that would make it a real biggie...

This i my latest atempt at trap. A remix of Rich Boy's Throw some d's.
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[mthrfnk]

@azuk: The intro is quite cool, I like the arps alhough the build lacks energy. I'm not a fan of when the drums kick in after that build, the drums are completely weak and have no punch and that main melody really covers the whole track - it's too prominent. The mix needs work, a lot of work - specifically in terms of bringing the drums forward and setting the synths back, additionally you need to work on glueing your basses/midranges together. Some of the sounds on the 2nd drop are cool, but overall I'd say they need a little EQ'ing to remove midrange mud and perhaps some stereo widening on the top end. I'd also work on your structure... and no song needs 8 drops.

@Alexandercunningham: I like this, it's quite clean. The vocals could perhaps use a little more sheen - try bosoting the top end or maybe using an exciter to really make them cut through. Otherwise the mix sounds nice and the track flows well.

@Gurnumsbug: Dope intro, vocals are smooth. Although imo the intro drags on a bit too long but it's not a major issue. I'd check your mix, the sub seems a little too loud and is covering the kick. At points the vocals seem a little too raw, perhaps at a touch more reverb and creative delay in places. I'd also suggest at parts you really don't need the vocals, they become distracting. In terms of the sounds, I'd play with adding more pads that develop throughout the song - low strings would suit this or a rolling rhodes loop maybe - just to keep things fresh. Nice work!

@tripwire22: Nice vibes from the start but I think you need more of a stripped back intro before you drop in the bassline, just to give a little bit of impact. It's a nice track, but for me it needs something else, just to keep things progressing, maybe vocals idk. The mix is okay, perhaps a little more punch is needed with the kick. Hats are spot on.

Some weird acid-house inspired stuff from me:
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[Malex]

@Gurnumsbug: The vocals aren't weird, they just sound like off pitch, but at the same time work, oddly enough. I love the deep ambient feel. A morning car ride song, at 6am for sure. The drums could be a bit more up front in the mix too. I think maybe a dedicated pad section, that is riding down, with a vocal, or like spectra said, a string section, would really give this track a more chill/smooth feeling.

@azuk: The intro part that starts @ 0:27 runs for to long. Try cutting it after 16 bars, and have a nice breakdown, with the build up, then into the drop. The drums overall could snap harder too. The kick and snare gets burried under the track hard.

@Alexandercunningham: HOLY DAMN! This is big man! I agree with Spectra, the vocals could use some more high end, also maybe make them a bit wider. But dude, I am straight bouncin to this tune right now! Hit me up with the release when you drop it dude!

@mthrfnk: Love it man! The drum in my opinion could punch harder, and maybe for the second drop, you could make it a bit glitchy with some shorter notes, that are faster. Where did you sample that vocal from also?

New track I am about to drop! Just want some final thoughts, before release!

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[f1rstsense]

@MALEX - good track man. your kicks seem to distort a bit (it might be my headphone tho)
and also i think a whitenoise layered on top of the drop sidechained or with proper envelopes could be great for it.
overall i love the feeling of it keep it up

@mthrfnk
this is big dude absolutlely love it,
only thing i'd add is some pumping or rythmic subbass underneath that drop,
but that might just be me (if you have it already and i just cant hear it coz of being on headphones then ignore this)
love the vocal sample aswell
i've been following you lately and your stuff is heavily inspirational! keep it up man!

@Alexandercunningham
love the tune only thing i'd add is some more tension before the buildup, but im not a real trap expert (dont really dig that style)
but nice one overall


here is my wip: an other breaks tune ive been workin on lately its almost in its final form

https://soundcloud.com/f41thzz/complexity/s-CEri0

Do you think that the SUB is too loud? (i dont know. sadly i dont have a proper sub)
im really interested what do you think of the arrangement of the 2nd parts of the first two drops,
but also i'm hungry for ANY critique/feedback to help me improve

[Malex]

@f1rstsense: I am already eating up this song, and I am just 0:30 secs in. That melody is beyond good! I think you could turn up the vocals in the first break a few decibels. I don't think you wanted them up front, but they get drowned a bit. Same with the vocals on the drop. I think for the second parts of your drops, you can take that melody from 0:28, and make a dedicated section there, kind of how knife party does with their stuff. I like what you have, but in my opinion, that would sound pretty cool. No right or wrong, just a thought. The snare could use a bit more reverb too, it's just a tad bit to dry. I am not the best in one time responses, so please ask questions back, I would love to help out more :3

Thanks for the feedback on my track too! There is a white noise layer above the drop, sidechained, but maybe it's to low, cause it is there. I don't like having it noticeable, cause it sounds a bit annoying to me. I just like having it there, cause to me, it's one of those, "You would know it was gone, if it wasn't there." I'll look into the kick too, it might be a bit to loud in the mix. I like making my kick a few dB's louder than I need, so when I master, it's still punchy, after the limiter squashes it.

[HimanshuVikal]

mthrfnk: I like it for it's craziness and the drop/chorus is quite energetic. I would make the kick stand out more and make it have more low end (70hz-ish). The verse (the part right after the first chorus) stands out for me. I'd probably put more emphasis on that maybe lengthen it a bit and bring drums in the second half of it. The noise effect is repeating too much you might wanna take it off somewhere. Like don't play it the 3rd time and change its timing somewhere between 4th-8th beat.

Alaxandercunningham: Love the intro that perc loop is groovy man. I don't know how trap sounds but the whole song has a hip-hopish feel to it I slow danced with my arms for a couple of seconds to it actually tutting and all. And that subby kick has quite a presence is that a 808 kick? Although I lost interest after a while but maybe just because its a little slow for me and it was a little repetitive but its still WIP

dj cappa: Its a nice banging stuff. Love the bassline which is leading the song but that synth playing at every 3-4 beat is a little repetitive you can put something else for the second half of the chorus and the synth although is quite upfront lacks energy for me. You can try and do a test and send it back with a little bit of more reverb and make it more energetic by adding some highs in it. The part after 1:20 is really a nice touch but a bit lengthy for me the tune for me kind of looses its feel because of it.

here is my tune.
Really excited about this chord progression and the feel of it and the whole tune. Haven't done much on the arrangement and might even go with the way it is right now. You know sometimes keeping it simple works.
So far haven't touched the drop but it will probably be a filthy one with a bit of emotions.
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Any kind of feedback is welcome even minor details

EDIT: Made some minor changes and updated the link.

[jetpack]

@HimanshuVikal:
Nice progression. The sub bass and kick are a bit clashing on my end. The sub sounds nice, the kick sounds slightly distorted. Try varying the velocity to give a bit of a human touch to the kicks on the triplet parts. It's a bit robotic. Sounds like a nice intro/build to something huge.

@mthrfnk:
Your production is spot on. Not to keen on the style, but everything just sits really well. I agree that a change is necessary somewhere with the lead, but it's a jam for sure.

@alexandercunningham:
Percussion is tight. Try varying the 808 to add some excitement (lower or higher notes). Vocals get a bit repetitive, but it still sits well. I could get into it more if it was 150 or 160 BPM.


My new WIP is not properly arranged, but the mix is there.

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[azuk]

@mthrfnk: I can't really hear the sub at all. I don't really like the riser, everything seems really awkward, nothing transitions from the lead to the riser. The clap seems a bit covered by the kick, and doesn't carry long enough, the clap doesn't really have much of an impact when it hits. All three drops are the same, I'd try and change one up.

@HimanshuVikal: Seems a bit empty after the drums kick in, I'd add some sort of low volume atmospheric pad to help make those parts fuller. The sub is a bit muddy, prob just my monitors though,


@Jetpack: I like the short synth lead, I'd put some reverb on it. The vocals are pretty cool though. The sub seems a bit quiet too. The snare roll seems a bit mechanical I'd automate velocity and pitch to make it more realistic. The sub is bit too quiet too.

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A somewhat calmer tune

[Filthor]

@AzUK, The bass in there seems too far back in the mix.. I don't know that mix just sounds off, I'm not really digging this one, and also, your kick is too quiet.

@HimanshuVikal I was digging it until the drums... the snare is too short, I think it would sound good with a tail on it, and the kick should be compressed more, and boosted more in the low end (imo)

@Alexandercunningham I don't listen to trap, but I can dig the intro, I'd say that snare needs to be compressed more, or try messing with transient plugins and eq it to bring out the primary frequencies so it will "smack" more, same thing with the 808, it needs to be stronger in the low end, and I thing compressing it to add a small amount of punch or prominence at the beginning of the sample would be nice too.

I found out 3LAU is having a remix contest! This is just a preview, I'm mainly needing help where to go from where it is, as far as style goes, I can't tell whether I should go dance, complextro, tempo change to dubstep or drumstep, so many options, help me pick! And yes, I did master this some, even though it's a WIP.

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[willryan042]

@HimanshuVikal: Like the 8bit-esque synth in the intro. Nice synth work overall, drums sound a little weird (not sure if it's intentional), kind of distorted. Nice tune so far, I'd like to hear it again when you add more.

@jetpack: kick seems a little soft, not quite punching through the mix as much as it could. The intro's a bit repetitive but DAMN (1:11), bring some of this exciting shit into the beginning of the song! This sounds good man, reminds me of PantyRaid a lot. I dig it.

@azuk: Digging this deep pad. Drums seem a bit too loud, and they're a little boring. Try mixing up the kick and snare pattern, especially before the drop. The kick on the first beat/snare on third get's really repetitive. Nice synth work after the drop, although I think you can lead up to it a little better. I think you could use something else in the bridge instead of just rolling the kicks too. Not too shabby though overall.

@filthor: Right off the bat, the intro seems a little weird. starting right off into a riser seems a little strange. I dig that synth and the track takes a totally different turn once the vocals kick in. Maybe bring more of that into the very beginning to keep the listener's attention. I really don't know what advice to give as far as where to go from here for the drop. You have some subtle dirty sounding synths peeking through, but I also feel like you could stay deep and minimal with this one. I'd like to hear where you take it though.


Here's mine. Haven't had time to sit down and fuck around with Ableton in close to a year. Still working on a few things, especially the mix. I'm at the point where I'm just adding effect samples and not really doing anything substantial anymore. And I swear I didn't sample Maroon 5, I didn't even think of that until I first bounced it out...

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[AndreiStephen]

@HimanshuVikal Chord progression is strong but your percussion is dry and robotic, and I’m not keen on the samples used either to be honest. Add a more moveable groove to them and perhaps a reverb. Also I think you should experiment with layering synths since the majority of the synth work you have done sounds relatively thin despite the musicality being strong. I think sonically the track is lacking.

@Alexandercunningham Feels grimy man, I like the hat work and the subs of the 808s aren’t overbearing. The track is pretty well mixed in my opinion, the vocal line is a bit overbearing at points and I think it lacks some brightness in the high end. The lead fills up the stereo field pretty nicely – overall a solid piece so far.

@willryan042 I think your instrumental is not bad, but the fact that the vocals are so violently out of pitch makes it harsh on the ears. You should focus on getting the vocals in pitch with the rest of the track. I like some of the musical ideas though.

https://soundcloud.com/andrei-stephen/w ... ad/s-ypgR7

[willryan042]

@willryan042 I think your instrumental is not bad, but the fact that the vocals are so violently out of pitch makes it harsh on the ears. You should focus on getting the vocals in pitch with the rest of the track. I like some of the musical ideas though.

could you elaborate a bit more? i don't mean to sound like a dick but i pitched them up/down intentionally, but it was my first time doing this so I'm not sure if it was "right." I also know the barebones-basics of music theory, so that probably doesn't help. thanks for the crit though!

[lightshapers]

will leave feedback later as usual


little wip from me
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[AndreiStephen]

willryan042 -- I know what your intention was, I think it can sound good so long that you get them in the right key. I do the same type of vocal processing as well but you have to make sure they compliment the notes of your instrumental appropriately. I like the instrumental.

[willryan042]

willryan042 -- I know what your intention was, I think it can sound good so long that you get them in the right key. I do the same type of vocal processing as well but you have to make sure they compliment the notes of your instrumental appropriately. I like the instrumental.

ahhh i hear you. yeah i'm pretty awful at tuning samples/making sure everything's in the same key. i can't even notice when things are out of key. what's the best way to do this? spectral analyzer?

[orlandobloominonion]

@azuk: That snare is huge, although in the intro section I think you could use a few other little atmospherics here and there, but that’s just my opinion. Really enjoying when the bass comes in, I think it could actually be a tad louder. Very clean sound design. Again, in the section between bass sections, I think it would benefit from some extra stuff going on, it’s a little bit too sparse right now for me. But damn, i do love that snare drop. Really great tune man.

@willryan: Digging the piano rhythm with that beat. I like the idea of the vocals, but they sound a too out of tune to me. When the bass comes in it might sound good to make the difference between the sections a little clearer. Otherwise, I’m bobbing my head, it’s got a good rhythm to it. I like the little breakdown section too, definitely adds to the song.

@AndreiStephen: Nice job with those vocals, spacey and out there. The atmosphere is great in the intro, and I’m digging the little suction sounds here and there. I think that lead works as well, but perhaps it could use a little bit more verb, and maybe the melody could be changed a little bit. Oh holy shit that is a fucking drop, absolutely incredible job with the sound design on those bass sounds. Love the rhythm of it too. Overall, this is incredibly promising, wouldn’t mind if you let me know when it’s done!

Was going for a Minnesota type vibe in this tune. I think the melodies might be too simple, but yeah any feedback appreciated. Especially if you think there's something I could improve mix wise. Thanks in advance.

https://soundcloud.com/gnar-wall/im-bad ... -1/s-BvDff

[dotcurrency]

orlandobloominonion Lol first post. It's nice. The synths are bit too loud and I feel the kick could use more low end. Also what the hell is a minnesota vibe?

AndreiStephen Sounds like the early age of brostep (not saying its a bad thing, it just sounds like the old brostep when it first was becoming a thing haha) I like it, but there needs to be a tad bit more sidechain so the kick can punch through. and the kick could be a little bigger. Really sweet vocal chopping and the drop is dope man! Really nice "huh" sample you've got. Also really like the way you ended each measure. The growls are a little loud. and the nexus piano is a little obviously a nexus piano haha. Try eqing out the low frequencies more so it sounds more like a ska guitar, it's what I do when I use the nexus piano trick.

willryan042 The piano being panned in the intro is really weird to me. And the vocals kill the song, get them in the right key like Andrei said. Just figure what key your song is already in and figure what key the vocals are in and work from there. The drop is really neat minus the vocals. If you fix the vocals it'll sound really nice. I dont hear the kick btw in the drop (there might not be one) but just saying.

Filthor The kick has way to much thump imo. I would bring down the really really low ends a bit . The idea is nice though. I'd add more reverb on the clap, but thats up to you, just my opinions here.


Here's mine. Not so sure about the intro.
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[lightshapers]

@dot - i was hoping it was going to drop into some filth. bit too cheesy for my tastes.
all it needs is ellie goulding and youll be shifting millions

@willyryan - yeh the vocals a bit wonky, that sort of vibrato lead thing gets a bit much after a little while as well. maybe the drums could be a bit beefier ?

@filthor - am i on the right forum ? everyones posting house tunes. my first thought was it could do with some hi hats/cymbals/percussion to make it roll a bit better.

@azuk - moody. its gets a bit static/repetitive/messy later on for the second drop, the drum rolls
need a bit of work

[orlandobloominonion]

@dotcurrency: lol, i sort of assumed minnesota had been seen on this forum by now. I'm talking about a producer from california, not the state. I don't even know what a state of minnesota vibe would be.... Cold?

Here's an example if you're interested. https://soundcloud.com/minnesota/starry ... ta-remix-1

I was pretty active on the forum in 2010 2011 but sort of just stopped coming on and recently found my account had been deleted. Woops.

Also, just tried turning down the synths a bit, it sounds way better. Goddamit i always do that kind of shit, thanks for the crit.

[ChadDub]

I'm trying to mix in these vocals my friend recorded on this beat I made, and I've been working on it for days now and this is what I have so far. The vocals were recorded with a rockband mic by my friend who has no knowledge of anything production wise so it was literally him just sitting at his laptop rapping into the mic over the beat. I just want some other peoples opinion on what needs to be done to the vocals at this point because my ears are fatigued as of right now.


Vocals come in around 0:38

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