Music Production @ Uni

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:49 am

Roqqert wrote:i dont wanna say youre wrong.. but this is just a much more quicker way... when im done, i'm probably 21 and on the good road of music productions and hopefully a good career as an artist

At this point, it should be noted that there are a lot more music production graduates than music production jobs (as is the case with art and film courses). And a lot of those "jobs" will probably not be paying and be work experience at the beginning.

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:23 am

money is a big thing here

whichever way you shell out the K's for sae, point blank or uni - at the end of think of the recoupable value
simple way of breaking it down is how many folk produce/record and how many have careers off of it!!

fact is music is a 2nd-ary thing for most folks by virtue of the necessity of money to eat! compare it to DnB - thousands of producers, every one and his dog has set up a label and is releasing but everyone except the top lot is still doing a 9to5

studios rob people blind - they know theyve got the pick of thousands of people who will work for 6k a year just to get in on the ladder!

so as much as chasing the dream is great, its an expensive route

i still think do a degree that'll get you a job - even if you turn the music degree to a media based one and then .....

find a community studio - they do OCN course and the like, get paid per-pupil by the government (so are free!) and typically run during the evenings

thats what i did in notts - two studios, eight students, lots of time to mess about with gear, ask questions and record!! mainly hip-hop music there BUT gave me the key skills and drive to continue (not to mention the engineer gave me a disk full of software to start with!)

cogent · Post by **cogent** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:23 am

I done a music course a while back and it was great for 2 reasons... Socially I met loadsa likeminded people and had some wicked years partying, jamming with some fantastic musicians etc, both aspects were a learning experience

The other plus side was that it introduced me to technology as at the time I was just playing guitar in bands and doing a bit of home 4 track recording... back then I didn't even own a computer and being introduced to midi and music software was a massive eye opener. Some of the tutors were good others were crap so I found a lot of self tuition was the key...

I went on to work for a music college for 4 years as a technician and part time lecture and I noticed course fees / student life becoming more expensive and music production equipment becoming more affordable I used to think the amount of debt you will have by the time you finish uni you could have brought a decent home studio that you could teach yourself how to use...
I think it really depends what you wanna get out of it... If you want to meet loadsa different musicians, hold off getting a full time job for a few more years and can afford it... do it but ask around what uni's people recommend! If you wanna make dubstep or a certain style of music, use the cash to buy a decent set up, loose your social life for a few years and set about teaching yourself, using the internet and forums for research....

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:53 am

I think that also getting a "normal" degree which may get you a job that makes good money may well be a better option in some respects.

a/ The money you make you can put towards a decent set-up, putting out releases, etc

b/ If you can live fairly cheaply but you have a large income, then put the money away and then have cash to take a few years out and pursue your own path without worrying about paying rent, eating, etc. Or alternatively, if you get into something that earns well, you may well be able to live quite well off doing less days a week which would be an advantage.

Another thing to remember is that if your aim is to get work in a professional studio, it's quite likely that a lot of the people you work with day to day will probably be doing music you don't like, and from those people I know that managed to get these jobs, that can be quite soul-destroying

wasteman · Post by **wasteman** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:19 pm

In my OPINION I wouldn't go to uni for a music production course. In the last few years from buying books reading around the internet and experimenting on my own im pretty confident I know more about music production than any of my friends who are on or have finished these kinds of courses.

At least for me making tunes is a hobby and I have no delusion of grandeur of ever making a serious living off it. As someone else said, I would rather have a high paid job which can fund my hobby than be broke living the "artists life". Of course this all depends on how serious or how good you think you are.

roqqert · Post by **roqqert** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:30 pm

wasteman wrote: I would rather have a high paid job which can fund my hobby than be broke living the "artists life". Of course this all depends on how serious or how good you think you are.

There's the limit indeed. Some people wanna live the artist life... like i do... some don't.

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