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Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by Chaos_Official » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:15 am

I've seen that the new flavor of the month bass patch is that metallic smooth wobble sound.

There are a couple ways to get this sound:

Using really short delay times: This produces a a comb-filtering effect, which give it a metallic quality.

Using convolution reverb: It's possible to create metallic sounds from using convolution reverb, this is the technique me and my m8 AzUK use.

Using FM Synthesis: This one is a bit harder to use then the others, and I haven't really nailed it down yet, but square modulating squares seems to be the most effective.

Using EQ modulation: I don't know how to create the metallic resonant peaks to create theses basses, but AzUK uses this method too, so you'll have to ask him.

That's most of what I know, so yeah.

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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by PhotonOfficial » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:37 am

Can you explain more about the convolution reverb technique please? It sounds interesting. How would I go about doing this?
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Post by R3b_Official » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:55 pm

It's very hard doing this sort of out board processing in any other daw than reason. For this sound you need reason, I got the demo version and will post a couple examples and tuts if I get it right. These sounds are do to reason waveforms and additive or fm synthesis. Scream 4 is a big part. I'm getting pretty close m8
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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by R3b_Official » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:09 pm

I also found a tutorial on how this is done in reason and there are two labels with music around this style of bass. One is dubstar and the other bassclash? I can't remember but will make sure when I get home
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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by azuk » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:36 pm

PhotonOfficial wrote:Can you explain more about the convolution reverb technique please? It sounds interesting. How would I go about doing this?
I introduced the convolution reverb technique to him, so I can elaborate more than he can.

It uses a combination of eq modulation and the convolution reverb, along with a deverb, play around with different settings.

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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:12 am

Is this what you m8s want? All in massive, couldnt get anything in reason :u: close enough... good attempt in massive with out any processing. :h:

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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by azuk » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:15 am

Nah, we're not really looking for a patch or anything, just discussing this type of patch, because it seems like me annd Chaos are the only ones we know of that are really good at it.

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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:29 am

azuk wrote:Nah, we're not really looking for a patch or anything, just discussing this type of patch, because it seems like me annd Chaos are the only ones we know of that are really good at it.

Well post and example then. Ive come to the conclusion its done is reason subtractor. The only granular synth and is basically built for funky stuff.


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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by azuk » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:32 am

lol wut
you want to use a subtractive synth for complex basses?

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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:02 am

azuk wrote:lol wut
you want to use a subtractive synth for complex basses?
You can use whatever synth or even a sample to make a bass. Some reeses are literally just processed samples, it depends on what synth you use and that yields a different sound. I was wrong about the subtractor being granular. Its was actually malestrom and you have use the index knob to get some wicked sounds.
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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:04 am

azuk wrote:Soundcloud
That doesnt sound really much, just reverb and the fast delays. For me it doesnt have enough power in it. Im getting sort of closer and better with my resampling stuff.

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Made this with just square waves and a env for the cutoff of a lowpass. Then some other effects and processing. Right sound but lost that jumpy feeling.
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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by azuk » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:25 am

R3b_Official wrote:
azuk wrote:Soundcloud
That doesnt sound really much, just reverb and the fast delays. For me it doesnt have enough power in it. Im getting sort of closer and better with my resampling stuff.
This is supposed to be layered with a reese and a sub, but I decided to just show the metallic layer.

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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by PhotonOfficial » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:00 pm

azuk wrote:Soundcloud
Sounds maybe too wet with effects? I'd say just tone the effects down a bit, sounds cleaner.
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Re: Metallic Shimmer Bass Patch

Post by azuk » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:36 pm

PhotonOfficial wrote:
azuk wrote:Soundcloud
Sounds maybe too wet with effects? I'd say just tone the effects down a bit, sounds cleaner.
Yeah seems a bit too harsh to be layered.

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