Controlling the high end to not over-exagerate itself?

[Apex]

Hi!
Sorry for the badly worded title I'm not entirely sure how to put this, basically listen to the high end in these tunes, they are fantastic! They are so clean and tightly bound with the rest of the mix, but they still keep the supersaw style feel, I'm not sure how to put it into words.

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Soundcloud

Now here are 2 tunes I have made and as you can tell the high end is really loud, uncomfortable and just makes the end product sound messy:

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Soundcloud

Any tips on keeping the high end under the thumb would be great, thanks a bunch, have a great day!

[mthrfnk]

I have similar problems sometimes, would appreciate any tips people offer

[eyeatus]

I like rolling off the highs around 16k hz

[ChadDub]

you could try a multiband compressor on the master and only using the high band compressor while keeping the lows and mids uncompressed.

[breachofpolice]

download mixcraft 5, enter said sample, play around with the presets..

[breachofpolice]

download mixcraft 5, enter said sample, play around with the presets..

They even have a low end preset for compresion, just tweak it, listen and learn

[Planet V]

I think you've got it pretty close already man! I like your tunes, very quality.

Multiband compressors can definitely help you, you can isolate the top end that you want to smooth out and only allow the compressor to trigger on those freqs.

Also, i noticed around 1 minute in your track, the saw chords that come in every few bars seem over sidechained (or delayed too much if you aren't actually sidechaining) you could always let off the compressor a bit there and then turn the sound down or compress the entire sound more.

One more thing is parametric EQing, throw some surgical cuts ( high gain reduction low Q ) on the synth in the areas you find annoying on the ears, this really helps i find, you can create some space to enjoy the other freqs.

V

[mthrfnk]

you could try a multiband compressor on the master and only using the high band compressor while keeping the lows and mids uncompressed.

Hmm nice idea, I'm gonna try this on my synth buss rather than the master.

[Icetickle]

you could try a multiband compressor on the master and only using the high band compressor while keeping the lows and mids uncompressed.

Hmm nice idea, I'm gonna try this on my synth buss rather than the master.

I heard that you should focus more on compressing lows at the end.

[mthrfnk]

you could try a multiband compressor on the master and only using the high band compressor while keeping the lows and mids uncompressed.

Hmm nice idea, I'm gonna try this on my synth buss rather than the master.

I heard that you should focus more on compressing lows at the end.

But the point I'm making is to attenuate the upper high end, compression on the high end of the synth buss will reduce the dynamic range and make anything that's excessively loud (and potentially harsh sounding) quieter, smoothing out the sound.

[Icetickle]

you could try a multiband compressor on the master and only using the high band compressor while keeping the lows and mids uncompressed.

Hmm nice idea, I'm gonna try this on my synth buss rather than the master.

I heard that you should focus more on compressing lows at the end.

But the point I'm making is to attenuate the upper high end, compression on the high end of the synth buss will reduce the dynamic range and make anything that's excessively loud (and potentially harsh sounding) quieter, smoothing out the sound.

I've just lowpassed my saw lead @ 12600Hz and I liked it.

[mthrfnk]

you could try a multiband compressor on the master and only using the high band compressor while keeping the lows and mids uncompressed.

Hmm nice idea, I'm gonna try this on my synth buss rather than the master.

I heard that you should focus more on compressing lows at the end.

But the point I'm making is to attenuate the upper high end, compression on the high end of the synth buss will reduce the dynamic range and make anything that's excessively loud (and potentially harsh sounding) quieter, smoothing out the sound.

I've just lowpassed my saw lead @ 12600Hz and I liked it.

Obivously lowpassing helps, although that seems a bit too low imo