Percussive Pluck Synths

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Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by Dhinojosa94 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:15 pm

Im trying to do the typical new electro drop synth that everybody seems to be using now, i just cant give depth to my plucks which are basically 8xsaws on sylenth with cutooff rolled. Any insight on how make them hit hard? layer them with drums or something like that?

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by titchbit » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:15 am

I believe what you're looking for is assigning an envelope to pitch. Experiment with it until it sounds right.

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mthrfnk » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:37 pm

Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by titchbit » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:14 pm

mthrfnk wrote:Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
Chromophone is nice I highly recommend it. But if the OP's got Ableton Suite, Tension is pretty similar to it.

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by Dhinojosa94 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:26 pm

dubunked wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
Chromophone is nice I highly recommend it. But if the OP's got Ableton Suite, Tension is pretty similar to it.

i use mainly logic pro, but i guess i could rewire into it or something

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by R3b_Official » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:52 am

Literally just percussion samples with a hall like reverb. Nothing complicated. That's mainly the sound with the reverb and a eq to boost some peaks for more resonated tone. Haven't tried making something like this in tension....

Will try this and make a generic beat port top 10 track :corndance:

Look up remake of animals or some other beat port song with the same sort of sound 90% of the time other kids remakes are spot on and use the actual sound. Some nexus or vengeance preset lol
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mromgwtf » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:00 pm

mthrfnk wrote:Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
prove it
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mthrfnk » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:47 pm

mromgwtf wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
prove it
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by Icetickle » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:11 pm

mthrfnk wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
prove it
Prove what?
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mthrfnk » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:42 pm

Icetickle wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
prove it
Prove what?
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100% Vengeance
https://soundcloud.com/spectrafunk/lolpluckz/s-M1lvm
added reverb on the pluck and quickly distorted the kick
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:12 am

mthrfnk wrote:
Icetickle wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Chromaphone is what Knife Party used for LRAD.

Some of the other tracks out there are actually Vengeance percussion samples.
prove it
Prove what?
EVERYTHANG :twisted:
100% Vengeance
https://soundcloud.com/spectrafunk/lolpluckz/s-M1lvm
added reverb on the pluck and quickly distorted the kick
i can haz beatport #1 now?

NO WAY BRO :6:

Top ten for sure :W:

Ok so i searched up the plugin and got some interesting sounds, way better than ableton collision and tension for sure.
First looked up a "different" version to try it out for a bit. Couldnt get it working, so went and downloaded the trail version.

Got pretty close with messing around a bit, found a preset thats pretty similar. Had to work fast on it before the 20 min period shut me out and fades the volume in and out.You can here in my link a bit at the end.... So i had freeze the track and unfreez it to adjust it little by little. Duplicated the track and made an under lying hiss noise like the tail of a snare. Then looked through samples for some shitty 808 kick....

My rhythm is way off :lol: still have no rhythm for a white dude, but if had the time i could get it sound like LRAD. Also one of the members said on twitter they use Chromaphone for the main sound.

Here is the shitty off beat remake!

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by GregoryTJ » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:12 pm

FL drumpad/drumaxx does this percussive synthesis too. Sakura could if you really wanted.

You could probably get these sounds with bandpass filters instead of lowpass filters on your standard pluck patch. :)

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:18 pm

GregoryTJ wrote:FL drumpad/drumaxx does this percussive synthesis too. Sakura could if you really wanted.

You could probably get these sounds with bandpass filters instead of lowpass filters on your standard pluck patch. :)
Thats true, but after messing around with Chromaphone, im starting to really like it! Thinking about actually getting it, has some sick strings and ambient stuff with it. Way better than making a string in massive or sylenth actually :i:

I forgot to save the project and tried another attempt this morning and got the timing on it just right. Layered a couple Chromaphones and its there. I could see why they use it. Big synth if you ask me.

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mthrfnk » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:48 pm

R3b_Official wrote:
GregoryTJ wrote:FL drumpad/drumaxx does this percussive synthesis too. Sakura could if you really wanted.

You could probably get these sounds with bandpass filters instead of lowpass filters on your standard pluck patch. :)
Thats true, but after messing around with Chromaphone, im starting to really like it! Thinking about actually getting it, has some sick strings and ambient stuff with it. Way better than making a string in massive or sylenth actually :i:

I forgot to save the project and tried another attempt this morning and got the timing on it just right. Layered a couple Chromaphones and its there. I could see why they use it. Big synth if you ask me.

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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:10 pm

mthrfnk wrote: You need a sharper attack and way more high end, also reverb - these sounds are all about the reverb.
I know that :cornlol: was kinda hard since its in demo mode. I still need to add reverb and make some high sound stand out. Lrad hit is pretty big and was trying to make a deep thud sound.
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mromgwtf » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:46 pm

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Used chromaphone. As title says. Excuse me for the overall bad quality of it but I was doing it fast :6:
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:50 pm

mromgwtf wrote:Soundcloud

Used chromaphone. As title says. Excuse me for the overall bad quality of it but I was doing it fast :6:
That is fucking perfect! Could you do a screenshot of some of the settings? :dunce: Also did you layer it or just used one single instance of chromaphone?
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mromgwtf » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:26 am

I used a single instance of chromaphone, and it was a preset. Percussion -> Multi bongo.
But if you load the preset into the chromaphone, you'll hear it sounds completely different from mine. I processed it pretty heavily.
I used:
EQ -> WaveShaper -> Maximus -> WaveShaper -> Reverb -> Gross Beat -> EQ -> Compression

If you use fl studio then here's my mixer preset: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ol8wgtck5kscx3o/yourmom.fst

If you compare it with the synth from LRAD it sounds fucking horrible, but heck, it was my first try. Maybe I should try layering with some really plucky samples.
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by mthrfnk » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:58 am

mromgwtf wrote:I used a single instance of chromaphone, and it was a preset. Percussion -> Multi bongo.
But if you load the preset into the chromaphone, you'll hear it sounds completely different from mine. I processed it pretty heavily.
I used:
EQ -> WaveShaper -> Maximus -> WaveShaper -> Reverb -> Gross Beat -> EQ -> Compression

If you use fl studio then here's my mixer preset: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ol8wgtck5kscx3o/yourmom.fst

If you compare it with the synth from LRAD it sounds fucking horrible, but heck, it was my first try. Maybe I should try layering with some really plucky samples.
Yeah I think you need to pump up the metallic side of the sound, the LRAD pluck has such a punchy transient - that's the hard bit imo.
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Re: Percussive Pluck Synths

Post by R3b_Official » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:01 am

Trying to get this one is quite a challange... seems as though knife party didnt go with some prec sample with this like every other producer.

We know what vst they used but how did that get that big snap snare feel to it? I got the thud sounding ok but it needs that long bro steppy snare tail. Not the air reverb one.

I think they just dupicated the track and set the dry wet to 100% and it gets a nice feel than just one track with reverb.

A waveshaper plays a big part in this. Messed around with it and got hit and miss results. Got that nice solid big feel but then tried to move another knob and forgot what setting it was at :u:

Any way heres ANOTHER attempt at this.....

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