War Drums and Horns

[God Komplex]

Now before I get reemed out for this. I know the routine. Internet/youtube/search/google. Tried it all, can't find anything. I'm looking for a certain type of drum and horn. In B.C. times they would use drums and horns to strike fear into their enemies. I don't know what type of horns or drums those are called but they have a very distinct heavy and deep sound. It's terrifying. I need it for one of my songs. But I cannot for the life of me find the samples because I don't know the name of the instruments, and I would have no idea how to create these instruments with processing.

Help?
Please and thank you.

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[Harkat]

you used a my little pony gif alpha

downgraded to m6

[test_recordings]

Tuba might be a good substitute. Arabic sistra, maybe? A drum is a drum though, look for recordings of ones people can carry. Japanese drums are pretty sick as well, search for 'Wadaiko'

[EARTH_MOVER]

Search the forum of taiko drum rack if you have ableton. If not I think you can download the samples fm that pack anyhow.

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Id research what those early instrunents are actually called...then Id look for samples. Alternatively you could sample period films. I know this will require effort so I apologize in advance for not just linking you directly to a solution.

[Eat Bass]

I'm actually interested in this too. I think I know the drums your talking about. I believe I have heard widdler use them in his tribal vibe songs. I would keep asking around and find out a film with them and keep hunting for the instruments. If you find out please let us know here and I will do the same.

[Harkat]

OP do you mean sick drums like this, straight at the tune's start:



^One of the best tunes ever, I pray 2 hear it in a dance someday

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I really think yall are making finding this shit harder than it has to be. Learn about the instruments. Forget trying to find a sample pack for now. Do some research essay style research first...

[mks]

Who Used War Drums?

Before writing, there was the drum. A clay drum excavated in Moravia, in central Europe, is dated 6,000 B.C.E. A drum found in Egypt, 4,000 B.C.E. A sculpture of a drum found in Sumeria, where writing apparently began, is dated 3,000 B.C.E. A drum image on a temple relief in India, maybe 2,000 B.C.E.

The Bible contains several references to drumming, such as Jepthah’s daughter playing to welcome her father home from battle. An ancient Greek vase shows women drumming and dancing. The Japanese "taiko" is estimated to be well over 2,000 years old, and in recent centuries could be found in Shinto and Buddhist shrines and temples as an aid to chanting. Chinese and Korean drums may be even older. Hollowed logs, their openings tightly covered with animal skin, were made by many primitive societies. Some peoples still make them this way.

Their obvious use was as a musical instrument. They were also used in ceremonies by shamans in Central Asia, North America, and the Arctic.

Complex Bantu drum beats mimicked the highs, lows, and syllables of tonal speech. The languages reportedly had drum equivalents. The drummed words were placed in context with other drummed words, sometimes creating long messages.

Records of military or message use may always remain unclear. They may have been the only sound sources, certainly one of the few that could be heard across a battlefield. The sound could rally troops or intimidate the foe. Around the 14th century, the snare drum, with its rattling tone created by gut or metal strings stretched across its lower drumhead, began to see service in the field with European infantry mercenaries who did not always know the language of the country they fought for. The drums were constructed to be loud. ("Rattle drums," played in India and Tibet, get their rattle from pellets inside the drum.)

The English army of the 16th century assigned two drummers to each 100 soldiers to carry a half dozen different messages. Japanese picture scrolls and painted screens of the 16th century show a soldier carrying a drum on his back while a comrade on either side beats it.

Drummers on horseback carried pairs of kettle drums during the spread of Islamic culture. This drum entered Europe during the Crusades. The "Turkish drum" used by Turkish Janissary troops entered Europe in the 18th century.

During the American Revolution, a runaway slave served George Washington as a drummer. Later he became a drum maker in Connecticut.

For other drum history:
http://www.webone.com.au/~firefly/drum_history.htm

http://www.mediahistory.umn.edu/archive/wardrums.html

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^I'd like to know how much effort that took, because I'm pretty convinced most people aren't willing to think about shit for more than five seconds before they post...

[Crimsonghost]

Gjallarhorn = the only horn that matters.

Taiko = the only (war) drum that matters.

[mks]

I would just like to reiterate that if you do some research and know the instrument that you are looking for, it helps to narrow down your search options.

Drummers on horseback carried pairs of kettle drums during the spread of Islamic culture.

In early medieval Europe, the use of the drum for military purposes did not begin until the crusades. The European armies first encountered them used by the Islamic military forces, who used primarily their traditional kettledrums, and found that the sound would particularly affect the Crusader's horses, who had not previously encountered them. By the early 13th century the Crusaders used them also.

The snare drum was taken into use in 13th century Europe, to rally troops, and to demoralize the enemy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_drums

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timpani

This website is probably going to hate me for posting this, but with a minimal search using my search Tai Chi Chuan I found a lot of great samples:

http://silenteternity.org/Sound_Effects ... ercussion/

http://tgfcenter.free.fr/ressources/sons/taiko.wav

[Bass_Jacka]

Might have already been posted somewhere, but I found this if it helps with the drums. You can download the Ableton rack, or just the one shot samples themselves.

http://www.subaqueousmusic.com/producti ... -drum-rack

As for the horns, I'm not sure.

[sunny_b_uk]

maybe hes on about a timpani and english horn.. man i have no idea what you're looking for OP

[God Komplex]

I did some research and I found out the horn. It's a gjallahorn but its played really deeply. The drum I still can't find. I found a big source on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum it tells about the types of drums, but I still cannot find the drums I am looking for. None of those on the article is what I'm looking for. Looking through old films is a good idea, but as for what movies I have no idea. I found this plugin called "War Drums". Does anybody have anything to say about that plugin?

[Earjax]

This. Just this.

[bennyfroobs]

literally opened this thread to post that tune hahaha

[EARTH_MOVER]

Soundcloud

these drums in the intro were pulled from the samples i talked about eariler.

also, the new sample pack competition in the sub forum has a sample that CAN be made into a war horn... not going to say which sample, ill leave that to you.

[Electric_Head]

Get yourself the Ethnic World 5 Pro.
http://www.bestservice.de/detail1.asp/b ... _voices/en

It's nothing short of amazing.