501 tracks, "weird" sounding
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FAARE FACED
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501 tracks, "weird" sounding
Hey guys,
I recently listened to some tracks from 501 and i was amazed by a characteristic :
All his tracks (well the recent ones, less than 10 months), sound very "close", or at least much closer than "regular" tracks from other people.
When you listen to them on headphones it almost sounds like the sound is coming from behind your neck. It sounds very define, neat and "close to you".
Here are some tracks so you can make yourself an opinion :
https://soundcloud.com/501dubz/koobra-f ... -something
https://soundcloud.com/501dubz/protohype-fly-501-remix
Am I the only one to have this impression ?
Do you have an idea about the processing being involved in order to get this ? I believe it's some overall processing, maybe total absence of reverb in anyway or oads of stereo width, but I didn't yet manage to get that same "close" feel.
Or maybe it's just great EQ and mixing ?
I recently listened to some tracks from 501 and i was amazed by a characteristic :
All his tracks (well the recent ones, less than 10 months), sound very "close", or at least much closer than "regular" tracks from other people.
When you listen to them on headphones it almost sounds like the sound is coming from behind your neck. It sounds very define, neat and "close to you".
Here are some tracks so you can make yourself an opinion :
https://soundcloud.com/501dubz/koobra-f ... -something
https://soundcloud.com/501dubz/protohype-fly-501-remix
Am I the only one to have this impression ?
Do you have an idea about the processing being involved in order to get this ? I believe it's some overall processing, maybe total absence of reverb in anyway or oads of stereo width, but I didn't yet manage to get that same "close" feel.
Or maybe it's just great EQ and mixing ?
some neurofunk :
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
I listened to the tracks quickly on my monitors, to me it sounds like the majority of the mix is really central, aside from the real high end which is really wide.
Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
As it should be?mthrfnk wrote:I listened to the tracks quickly on my monitors, to me it sounds like the majority of the mix is really central, aside from the real high end which is really wide.
Sounds like you inverted the phase on one side of your phones (L/R) somehow..
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
Imo they're a lot more central than some mixes, maybe why they sound so focused on headphones?Icetickle wrote:As it should be?mthrfnk wrote:I listened to the tracks quickly on my monitors, to me it sounds like the majority of the mix is really central, aside from the real high end which is really wide.
Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
He said that the sound is coming from "behind his neck"...mthrfnk wrote:Imo they're a lot more central than some mixes, maybe why they sound so focused on headphones?Icetickle wrote:As it should be?mthrfnk wrote:I listened to the tracks quickly on my monitors, to me it sounds like the majority of the mix is really central, aside from the real high end which is really wide.
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
sounds like you don't know what you're talking about..Icetickle wrote:Sounds like you inverted the phase on one side of your phones (L/R) somehow..
Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
Maybe some binaural panning algo, or just very little to no reverb.
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
Check out Wavearts "Panorama" it is very good for this kind of effect. Alternatively you can use a reverb with a very short decay and small size.
Here is a demo of panorama from the wavearts website (use headphones):
http://wavearts.com/sounds/PanoramaDemo ... hones).mp3
Here is a demo of panorama from the wavearts website (use headphones):
http://wavearts.com/sounds/PanoramaDemo ... hones).mp3
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
Thanks for your input, i'll have a look at those panorama vsts.
I was also thinking about some frequency splitting (with like at least 5 bands) on each instruments (bands being set differently), with some bands mono and others very very wide. I'll see how this sounds.
I was also thinking about some frequency splitting (with like at least 5 bands) on each instruments (bands being set differently), with some bands mono and others very very wide. I'll see how this sounds.
some neurofunk :
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
imo people are taking the panning stuff too far - to me it just sounds like he's panned stuff hard centre/right/left and then the dry reverb is making stuff more stereo (e.g. pan a lead hard left and add reverb and you'll get some reverbed stereo information on the right making it wide)
Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
I actually didn't even listen to the song in question, I probably should. Although I am probably going to end up agreeing with mthrfnk...
Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
You can achieve an effect like this with stereo phase offset as well.
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
Well. i would go with mthrfnks answer too. but tbh im just posting to say how horrid that sounded. my ears are still ringing.
Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
Your ears can ring?Sinestepper wrote:Well. i would go with mthrfnks answer too. but tbh im just posting to say how horrid that sounded. my ears are still ringing.
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Re: 501 tracks, "weird" sounding
what a stupid question,
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