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Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:49 pm

The snare that starts at :20 in this song:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4g0sxDCE ... X4g0sxDCEw

It's super hard hitting, and has a 'flat' ... if you will presence too it.

I have samples that sound similar but how did they get it to sound like that?

Or maybe I'm mistaken it and it's just cutting through the mix super well.

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Re: Snare Question

Post by eyeatus » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:56 pm

two 808 snares hard panned L/R

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Re: Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:59 pm

eyeatus wrote:two 808 snares hard panned L/R
You da best, for real. Thanks a bunch.

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Re: Snare Question

Post by mromgwtf » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:17 pm

eyeatus wrote:two 808 snares hard panned L/R
I hope you're joking.
Exilium wrote:distorted square

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Re: Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:20 pm

mromgwtf wrote:
eyeatus wrote:two 808 snares hard panned L/R
I hope you're joking.
Reallly? /:

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Re: Snare Question

Post by mromgwtf » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:24 pm

itsHAZED wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:
eyeatus wrote:two 808 snares hard panned L/R
I hope you're joking.
Reallly? /:
The snare is so visible in the mix because it's really stereo.
Use chorus with stereo settings to get that effect.

No no no, I was wrong. Use STEREO DELAY to get that effect. (Haas effect).
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Re: Snare Question

Post by Trichome » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:56 pm

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Re: Snare Question

Post by Trichome » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:04 pm

also
itsHAZED wrote:it's just cutting through the mix super well.
sounds like theyve boosted around 300hz a bit, but thats 100% the source sample.

key to trap drums is making them 10 times louder than all other elements
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Re: Snare Question

Post by Sure_Fire » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:33 pm

Imo that snare is annoying as fuck, being right in my ears like that. It's pretty obvious it's a generic hip hop/trap snare with excessive amounts of stereo separation, you can tell by the right side being more present than the left. If you're on FL then Fruity stereo shaper preset 'stereoise 3' should get a similar effect.
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Re: Snare Question

Post by Trichome » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:58 pm

Sure_Fire wrote:Imo that snare is annoying as fuck, being right in my ears like that. It's pretty obvious it's a generic hip hop/trap snare with excessive amounts of stereo separation, you can tell by the right side being more present than the left. If you're on FL then Fruity stereo shaper preset 'stereoise 3' should get a similar effect.
i dont mind it when used right

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Re: Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:20 pm

Sure_Fire wrote:Imo that snare is annoying as fuck, being right in my ears like that. It's pretty obvious it's a generic hip hop/trap snare with excessive amounts of stereo separation, you can tell by the right side being more present than the left. If you're on FL then Fruity stereo shaper preset 'stereoise 3' should get a similar effect.
How about for Ableton? Do I need a different plugin or is there something in Ableton that will suffice?

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Re: Snare Question

Post by Trichome » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:29 pm

itsHAZED wrote:
Sure_Fire wrote:Imo that snare is annoying as fuck, being right in my ears like that. It's pretty obvious it's a generic hip hop/trap snare with excessive amounts of stereo separation, you can tell by the right side being more present than the left. If you're on FL then Fruity stereo shaper preset 'stereoise 3' should get a similar effect.
How about for Ableton? Do I need a different plugin or is there something in Ableton that will suffice?
did you even listen to the sample i posted? its exactly the same as the one in the tune you posted....
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Re: Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:33 pm

Trainrek wrote:
itsHAZED wrote:
Sure_Fire wrote:Imo that snare is annoying as fuck, being right in my ears like that. It's pretty obvious it's a generic hip hop/trap snare with excessive amounts of stereo separation, you can tell by the right side being more present than the left. If you're on FL then Fruity stereo shaper preset 'stereoise 3' should get a similar effect.
How about for Ableton? Do I need a different plugin or is there something in Ableton that will suffice?
did you even listen to the sample i posted? its exactly the same as the one in the tune you posted....
I'm sorry!

I'm on my phone at the moment, thank you though, I really appreciate it.

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Re: Snare Question

Post by Trichome » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:46 pm

no worries dude. like i said from what i can hear, they've just boosted around 300hz a bit to make it sound more notey.

its a good sample tho, not really much you need to do with it. dont make it mono, half the weight of it comes from the wideness.


best tip i can give for drums like that: dont compress them at all.
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Re: Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:25 pm

Trainrek wrote:no worries dude. like i said from what i can hear, they've just boosted around 300hz a bit to make it sound more notey.

its a good sample tho, not really much you need to do with it. dont make it mono, half the weight of it comes from the wideness.


best tip i can give for drums like that: dont compress them at all.
Thanks again man.

Compression ruins the dynamic's right? I have been compressing my snares just like that sample lately, so I should stop? Also have been compressing my claps as well.

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Re: Snare Question

Post by eyeatus » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:46 pm

mromgwtf wrote:The snare is so visible in the mix because it's really stereo.
Use chorus with stereo settings to get that effect.

No no no, I was wrong. Use STEREO DELAY to get that effect. (Haas effect).
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Re: Snare Question

Post by Sure_Fire » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:36 am

itsHAZED wrote:Compression ruins the dynamic's right? I have been compressing my snares just like that sample lately, so I should stop? Also have been compressing my claps as well.
Compression doesn't ruin dynamics, it just alters them. The quality and usefulness of the compression are dependant on the producer and the experience he/she has with compressors. Don't stop compressing things, just learn how and when to use it.

Also, you can sometimes limit drum samples (be VERY careful when doing this) so that excessive amounts of attack are lopped off the top of the sample to create room in the mix. Light sidechaining can also help with this.
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Re: Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Sure_Fire wrote:
itsHAZED wrote:Compression ruins the dynamic's right? I have been compressing my snares just like that sample lately, so I should stop? Also have been compressing my claps as well.
Compression doesn't ruin dynamics, it just alters them. The quality and usefulness of the compression are dependant on the producer and the experience he/she has with compressors. Don't stop compressing things, just learn how and when to use it.

Also, you can sometimes limit drum samples (be VERY careful when doing this) so that excessive amounts of attack are lopped off the top of the sample to create room in the mix. Light sidechaining can also help with this.
So say I had a clap with a really high peak I could use the limiter to sort of 'chop' the peak of it off.

Thanks for the tips! :)

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Re: Snare Question

Post by Sharmaji » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:38 pm

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Re: Snare Question

Post by itsHAZED » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:00 pm

Sharmaji wrote:successful thread full of songs mixed to sound good on mobile phones... is successful.
pointless post - unsuccessful.

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