Help getting this "hollow" bass sound in Massive

[Clutchkick]

Hey guys, I've been trying to figure out how to get that "hollow" sounding bass thats pretty big right now and I can get close with Reason but I want to learn to get the sound in Massive because I'm more comfortable with it's modulation.. Any ideas?


This is the sort of sound I'm after
https://soundcloud.com/jubbymusic/jub-s ... nding-time

[R3b_Official]

Been trying to get this also but i get no luck in massive......

Its purely in reason and i have not a clue to get this sort of control on these basses

[Clutchkick]

Yeah, I still have not figured it out. I got close in Reason but I HATE automating in reason. I honestly think it comes down to the wave tables.

[Ledger]

Sounds like Malstrom to me. With a waveshaper effect on.

[Clutchkick]

Yeah I got some nice sounds from Reason.. It's the automation that turns me away from it.

[Ledger]

Yeah I got some nice sounds from Reason.. It's the automation that turns me away from it.

Yeah... Always had that problem too. If you go on Youtube, and go to Propellerhead's channel, they have that tut thing that's called "50 weeks" or something like that, and one week, the guy made dead accurate sine wave automations and uploaded them for download. Can't remember the name of the vid or link or anything, but that's where you'll need to look.

[Clutchkick]

I'm assuming this is it: http://youtu.be/6y0Ro2M1Sh4

Thanks! This looks quite helpful actually

[Ledger]

Yeah! No problem. Always looking to help someone.

[R3b_Official]

Any ideas on the sound design of this stuff in reason? Im absolutely lost.... Reason stuff is so strange and different. Takes a different mind set to use it.

[Ledger]

Malstrom, Waveshaper, filters, and Scream 4 (also Pulverisor if you have it [came with either 6 or 6.5]). Lots of subtle unison too.

[kaili]

cant listen to the op link atm but a good way to get a hollow bass is to use the phase modulation thing on massive and put the pitch on the modulation osc up by an octave
then cutting out some of the mids helps too, and maybe dimension expander/a really short delay/reverb
works well on saw/sq waves

[R3b_Official]

Malstrom, Waveshaper, filters, and Scream 4 (also Pulverisor if you have it [came with either 6 or 6.5]). Lots of subtle unison too.

Im still pretty lost It took me a good 20 minutes to figure out how to set up the filter with the env, Im using reason 7 demo right now but might buy the full version soon. Could you post something a bit more detail? We all know its reason and some slight distortion.... Im shlumped m8's.

[Ledger]

I'm not a pro at hollow basses, but in my mind they just seem like common sense (until I try at it and would probably fail lol). Anyways, any osc(s) on Malstrom, detune by anything less then 2, run through filter B with a highpass to maybe 100-300Hz, run through waveshaper (I'd say clip or quaint [if quaint is an option; it's been a month or so since I was last on Reason]) with maybe 20-50 drive, run through filter A with an lp and the cutoff at maybe 110, then subtle distortion, some pulverizer (VERY little), slight unison, slight compression, and BAM!

Also, EQ throughout that. When using Reason, I usually throw an EQ in between each effect that has any drastic change on the sound.

Again, I'm no pro at hollow basses, but thinking through it, it sounds like a hollow bass to me. Lmao

[R3b_Official]

I'm not a pro at hollow basses, but in my mind they just seem like common sense (until I try at it and would probably fail lol). Anyways, any osc(s) on Malstrom, detune by anything less then 2, run through filter B with a highpass to maybe 100-300Hz, run through waveshaper (I'd say clip or quaint [if quaint is an option; it's been a month or so since I was last on Reason]) with maybe 20-50 drive, run through filter A with an lp and the cutoff at maybe 110, then subtle distortion, some pulverizer (VERY little), slight unison, slight compression, and BAM!

Also, EQ throughout that. When using Reason, I usually throw an EQ in between each effect that has any drastic change on the sound.

Again, I'm no pro at hollow basses, but thinking through it, it sounds like a hollow bass to me. Lmao

Pretty much did what you said exactly and got really nothing again.... after messing around with this patch i got a good sound messing with the mod A part of malstrom. Got the swingy and vowely movement but it lacked much of full character and scream didnt help much....

I honestly got some better results in subtracktor than i did in malstrom, messed around with the fm knob a bit but still nothing like op posted.


Ive been hearing these sounds for the past month and its been driving me crazy!!!

[ThisIsSovereign]

Never been able to get these kind of sounds using anything but Subtractor in Reason, but I don't really like the hassle of routing Reason to Ableton x.x.

[R3b_Official]

Never been able to get these kind of sounds using anything but Subtractor in Reason, but I don't really like the hassle of routing Reason to Ableton x.x.

Exactly what im thinking now.... i know the wave forms that go in numeric order give nice metallic properties, but i could never get around making it bouncy and hollow within subtractor.

This should be a way with out reason some how.....

[R3b_Official]

Is this about right you guys? Made it couple days ago but forgot to post back on here made straight in ableton with massive only for the first part of the clip. Now i just need to learn to make it talk more

Soundcloud

[Murtagh]

Probably Square Waves and a few comb filters


Maybe take some of the lows out of it and do some more bandpassing.

[R3b_Official]

Probably Square Waves and a few comb filters

Maybe take some of the lows out of it and do some more bandpassing.

From what ive experimented with combs are not the way to go.... they absolutely destroy the sound. Using squares and phasing them a shit ton with unison gets them nice and metallic, then adding slight chorus and an eq every now and then in a chain is the way to go. Compression at the end to glue everything for a fuller sound.

Comb just makes everything ring horribly, my less favorite thing to add on a bass. So many other ways to add hollowness or a metallic feel without adding a "comb" and getting this unbearable ringing metal resonance.

[MoonUnit]

Yeah I got some nice sounds from Reason.. It's the automation that turns me away from it.

Seriously you can do more automation in Reason than you can with any plug-in.
I just made a bassline a couple days ago of which the amplitude is followed and converted to CV and then the CV sweeps and boosts a certain frequency range in an EQ, pre-distortion. Once you have a CV set up correctly you can tack it on to a million different things to modulate.