Machine-like ring snares

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by PatrickReza » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:23 am

put a gnarly eq notch at around 200hz (depending on key of song) +10dB Q= as high as possible.

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by Murtagh » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:38 pm

You could probably put some distortion after a small room reverb too

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by Number23 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:45 am

I actually remember cockin around with the scream on some drums before and noticed a koan vibe on the snare, and like you guys said they have just done the propellerhead interview claiming they use this, one of the settings either modulate or scream I think, set low damage, p1 is a kind of dampener so u want this pretty high and the p2 knob is almost like an eq bump so turn up slowly and you will here the desired frequency pop out. I imagine they use a bunch more processing, I'm sure I read something about a transient shaper also somewhere. It does help to have a snare (or some layered) with a decent amount of 200 to 300hz to begin with probably. Also try pitching snares up to get the higher pop if they aren't already up there.

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by PhotonOfficial » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:52 pm

I've found out if you put lots of saturation on the snare at the end of the chain and then use a transient shaper to get the transient back that was lost in the saturation, it sounds very good. I use Fabfilter Saturn's gentle saturation preset and crank the overdrive to around 70% for this. The 200 - 300hz area should be EQ'd beforehand (large spike at the correct frequency) and then the saturation should be applied as when the 200 - 300hz area is distorted it sounds a lot like KOAN sound's snares. You can clearly hear that they have used distortion in their snares, most likely scream 4, but heavy saturation gives exactly the same effect.

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by Number23 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:26 pm

Yes you're right! Much better, using tape saturation setting and I think the big eq bump before the saturation is key. Also, i duplicated the snare and took the eq down and compressed it quite a hard with the tape setting set to compress for the transient and mixed it in rather then using a shaper and worked really well. Can't believe how loud it is without clipping the signal like this! And by the way this was just one snare, people say you need like six layers but u don't, unless u want an obvious layered sound like some koan tracks where u hear a live longer tailed snare at same time

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by Eskimo » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:11 pm

Yep, good tips right there. Do try!

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by NinjaEdit » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:55 am

Having the mic too close to the snare makes it ring.

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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by Augment » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:42 pm

ringdingdingdingdingdingdingding WHAT THE FOX SAY

but seriously, if you compress an acoustic sample alooot, there's almost always a nice ring on the tail, mix it in with a punchy body and boom, ringy snare.
Example from some reese ting where the snare is made using this technique:
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Re: Machine-like ring snares

Post by bouncingfish » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:50 pm

blinkesko wrote:ringdingdingdingdingdingdingding WHAT THE FOX SAY

but seriously, if you compress an acoustic sample alooot, there's almost always a nice ring on the tail, mix it in with a punchy body and boom, ringy snare.
Example from some reese ting where the snare is made using this technique:
https://soundcloud.com/blinkesko/messin ... in/s-nhh5g
Is there no distortion or anything on this? Would be cool to hear the original sample too, I only have very few acoustic snare samples and they aren't very ringy to begin with.
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