how to achieve Gantz style dub delay.

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how to achieve Gantz style dub delay.

Post by sine143 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:57 pm



alright so we should all Gantz is a badman by now.... but I'm trying to gain some insight as to his delay techniques, particularly in the above song, throughout. First off, my delay technique is non existent... so I'm very interested in learning any decent delay technique at all. I very much like the clean pitch bending of the delay.

I've tried automating the delay time, but it always ends up sounding quite messy. I was thinking maybe he bounced a clean pingpong delay, turned warp on and then pitchbended the sample?

anyone have any advice?

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Re: how to achieve Gantz style dub delay.

Post by forbidden » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:35 pm

i've accomplished this kind of stuff using waves h-delay. i automated the reverb time, delay, feedback and started getting some nutty results pretty fast, particularly when automating the feedback.

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Re: how to achieve Gantz style dub delay.

Post by Undrig » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:24 pm

If you listen closely to the shifts in speed with the delay, you'll hear transition from 8th to 16th notes isn't sudden but it lurks from one to the other so the change isn't sudden but gradual. Simply automating a delay from 8th to 16th won't get you that offkilter sound as it shifts down or up between the quantize value. Trick here is instead of using sync for your delays and automating from 8th note to 16th, you figure out the milliseconds of the delay in relation to the bpm and automate to the fixed amounts that way. Then it's just a matter of getting the feedback settings to sit well in relation to the bpm and how often the sound triggers the delay. Here's a chart you can use to get it sorted.
http://www.thewhippinpost.co.uk/tools/d ... ulator.htm

I think what is going on here may be a little different though. Simply because the pitch of the sound changes in relation to the speed. He is likely taking a resampled sound at the track's original bpm at an 8th note value delay on it and then pitch shifting it to whatever pitch amount changes the sound from 8th note sounding delay to a 16th note delay. Then back down again.

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Re: how to achieve Gantz style dub delay.

Post by sine143 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:06 pm

thanks, that got me moving in a bit better direction. will experiment farther.

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Re: how to achieve Gantz style dub delay.

Post by sine143 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:33 am

the man says logic tape delay, having good results with tape echo in guitar rig.

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