Mountie fights for right to smoke cannabis in uniform

[skell1ngton777]

My wife uses it for PTSD and it helps her a lot

[nowaysj]

sorry about my spelling and gramar, im bad at those things

edited my backwards sentences lol*

It is almost like you're smoking too much pot.

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Benny, benny, benny. People's responses to mj are highly varied, even diametric. This is the reason why more legitimate science needs to be done on this subject. The stigma around this plant is huge, for obvious reasons ($$$), but there is a great potential there to alleviate human suffering. To limit or curtail that is inhumane, especially when your opinion is based on a couple of guys that you know who had negative outcomes, or your parents of unknown doctorage said so.

I've known a lot of people who have had negative outcomes with mj. I've known a lot of people who've had far worse negative outcomes with other prescribed pharmaceuticals, and I've known even more people who've had negative outcomes due to the bs legal issues around this drug that was undeniably made illegal solely for the financial considerations of the extremely wealthy.

Bottom line, more research, and more deference to the rights of individuals, and the decisions of individuals and their doctors is in order.

[nowaysj]

Oh, and as to the Mountie... Why does he feel he needs to do this in public. Like if he was diabetic and had to shoot up insulin, would that be the best look, mounties shooting up in the street? Think of the role you (are supposed to) serve in the public space. How about he exercises a bit of discretion for the sake of his profession and his mission.

[wolf89]

I'm all for legalisation, but I don't see why any employer should find it acceptable that an employee is bunnin a fat zoot on the job, ANY JOB, let alone a police officer.

This really.. It may be medicinal but it doesn't really come off as professional as it would still give off the wrong image to many as they associate it with recreational use. Blatantly smoking in public a massive joint isn't giving off exactly much of a "taking my medicine" vibe

[kidshuffle]

I think the media is skewing this a little bit since he is in law enforcement. Mounties look like this in public, where as he is asking to smoke in his uniform reserved for special events only.



If officers are in their red serges, at some sort of function (where they are off duty 90% of the time), I don't see the problem with him smoking, especially with the amount of cops who smoke cigarettes. on duty is obviously not okay.

[kidshuffle]

as a matter of fact, the only time I've seen a mountie on duty, wearing a red uniform is when they're in parades, or doing flag ceremonies and etc ar sporting events.

[bennyfroobs]

It is almost like you're smoking too much pot.

Benny, benny, benny. People's responses to mj are highly varied, even diametric.

i'm fully aware man, a lot of people i know smokes it or has smoked it. loads of people can absolutely hammer the stuff and get along happy as larry with zero repercussions. all i was saying is in my experience and from my understanding, its the people with underlying mental health issues who are more likely to have adverse reactions to it some way or another

This is the reason why more legitimate science needs to be done on this subject. The stigma around this plant is huge, for obvious reasons ($$$), but there is a great potential there to alleviate human suffering.

ye idd, growing hemp defo needs to be legalised. i think the stigma is kinda justified a little bit and i would say there's potential but depends on the sort of treatment really. i personally dont think there's good potential for stuff like ptsd.

To limit or curtail that is inhumane, especially when your opinion is based on a couple of guys that you know who had negative outcomes, or your parents of unknown doctorage said so.

my opinion isnt solely based on a few guys i know though, but that is the evidence of it ive seen IRL. i have read a few academic papers on that Quest website (little while back now though, new stuffs probably cropped up since then, and they werent just about ptsd, general weed stuff, im defo not a ptsd fountain of knowledge)

I've known a lot of people who have had negative outcomes with mj. I've known a lot of people who've had far worse negative outcomes with other prescribed pharmaceuticals, and I've known even more people who've had negative outcomes due to the bs legal issues around this drug that was undeniably made illegal solely for the financial considerations of the extremely wealthy.

but the important thing is have u known a lot of people who ahve had positive outcomes with mj?** for ptsd we're talkng here, i know its really good for pain relief for certain illnesses. yea man prescribed stuff can defo have horrible side effects too, my friends have told me about the side effects of some stuff theyre on. sounds sooo wack.
people getting busted for possession is a complete tangent tho haha

Bottom line, more research, and more deference to the rights of individuals, and the decisions of individuals and their doctors is in order.

defo more research required, with people who actually know what theyre doing, not like that MAPS website from the bottom of the other page. their PTSD research plan was unanimously rejected like twice by NIDA/PHS...

ill ring popa g and see what he says. hes a mental health guy

** also, i thnink soemthing to take into consideration when using weed as a treatment for ptsd, is that being stoned is a generally nice and relaxing feeling, especially when u just have a little bit. just cos ur all chilled and happy when ur high doesnt mean its permanently helping ur ptsd

[ezza]

man i cba to do any reseacrh but imo all the PRO WEED science is just stoners doing science to try help there stoner needs with science

if alcohol became illegal then by next week we'd have articles about how it cures blindness and if medicated properly is basically just a natural medicine

imo legalise everything and when people go crazy (WHICH THEY WILL) be it weed or pcp... just wack them on an island and film it like big brother

just my 2 pence lyk

[ezza]

i cant wait for it to be legalised so i dont have to hear ppl telling me it cures cancer

[bennyfroobs]

i cant wait for it to be legalised so i dont have to hear ppl telling me it cures cancer

this x10000000000000

so fuckign annoyign. like 2 strains have been proven to slow tumour growth. gg weed cures cancer now

[+torment+]

Canadians are sooooo fuckin weird.

[alphacat]

Harvard study finds no link between teen pot use and schizophrenia risk

[bennyfroobs]

The study, which was published earlier this month in Schizophrenia Research, found evidence to suggest that cannabis users were more likely to develop depression or bipolar disorders, but the scientists said more research was needed to understand the relationship.

how many times has this already been said haha

i lol'd at the study's population size being increased to 4000 people by asking the 300 participants about their family's drug and mental illness history. incredibly reliable and credible source of information


btw jose, talked to my father about ganja as a treatment for ptsd and he said something along the lines of

"what the hell there's way better treatments for ptsd than pot, god knows why they're prescribing people that. tbh people who are smoking pot for ptsd are just kidding themselves on because they like the feeling of being stoned. of course people are going to feel alleviated when they're all relaxed and high, but you cant just spend your whole life being stoned 24/7, can you?"

he also said ganja is like the best pain relief treatment for people who suffer from multiple sclerosis which i thought was interesting shiznit

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

[alphacat]

Pascal the kutchie pon de left hand side... ME SEH!

[kruptah]

Pot-smoking Mountie Ron Francis charged with assault

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-bruns ... -1.2458428

A New Brunswick Mountie who made national headlines last month for publicly smoking medical marijuana while in uniform has been charged with assaulting a police officer.

Cpl. Ron Francis was arrested in Fredericton on Friday after police used a stun gun on him. He remains in custody after appearing in provincial court on Saturday, CBC News has confirmed.

The 21-year veteran of the RCMP has been ordered to undergo a 30-day psychiatric assessment at the Restigouche Hospital Center in Campbellton to determine if he can be held responsible for the charge against him.

He is scheduled to return to court on Jan. 6.

Francis serves with J Division in Fredericton, but is on medical leave. He suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), which he says is related to his work.

He received a prescription for medical-grade marijuana on Nov. 4, and says the drug has helped reduce his PTSD symptoms and calm him down.

Francis contends he should be able to smoke the drug while in uniform and did so publicly, defying RCMP bosses.

Mounties promptly seized his regular work uniform from his Kingsclear First Nation home on Nov. 28 and he turned in his red serge uniform the following day, as instructed.

RCMP were searching for him on Friday to conduct a "wellness check," due to concerns about his medical condition.

When officers were unable to find him, they asked Fredericton city police to assist.

Francis was located in the afternoon, when the alleged assault occurred.

RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson has said he's embarrassed and disappointed by the case. The force had tried to discourage Francis from going public, Paulson told a House of Commons committee last week.

[alphacat]

^ TBH this only makes me like him more.

[kidshuffle]

Hmmmm so he's First Nations too? Or does he just live on reserve? That makes this a little bit more interesting

I like how they don't say what started the assault - just the fact that it happened.

[prisoner]

Pascal the kutchie pon de left hand side... ME SEH!

maybe im missing something, but you don't actually think the the lyrics are "pascal" & "kutchie" do you?



(apologies if i missed the joke)

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

Blaise Pascal is the ledge in the picture yer raasclart