How to make my kicks have more punch?

[SunkLo]

where the drums should be

c'mon dude

[bassbum]

Thanks guys for the advice! Much appreciated, really!

I have one more question. How do i make my own dubstep drum patterns? Like how do i work out where the drrums should be and all that? Up until now, i have kinda been just been emulating other artists drum patterns but now i want to make my own

Thanks

For dubstep the basic patten is Kick on 1 and snare on 3. Other than that your free to do whatever. You should try and recreate the drums in your head or, if you dont have a idea, just move stuff around until you have something you like. Knowing what will work and what wont comes with experience.

[bassbum]

^Dafuk?

[cloud90]

where the drums should be

c'mon dude

Maybe i should have rephrased it better. Basically, my drum patterns sound pretty boring. I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips as to how i could make mine better or how and where i can some inspiration. Recently, i have been trying to imitate other artists drum patterns but i want to make my own ones

[cloud90]

Thanks guys for the advice! Much appreciated, really!

I have one more question. How do i make my own dubstep drum patterns? Like how do i work out where the drrums should be and all that? Up until now, i have kinda been just been emulating other artists drum patterns but now i want to make my own

Thanks

For dubstep the basic patten is Kick on 1 and snare on 3. Other than that your free to do whatever. You should try and recreate the drums in your head or, if you dont have a idea, just move stuff around until you have something you like. Knowing what will work and what wont comes with experience.

Ah, i see...thanks!

[fragments]

^Keep on emulating. Learn some on how a real drummer has to use a drum kit and how they would develop the drum part for a song. It'll help you sound more natural. If you haven't yet tried playing your drums in live (not necessarily finger drumming). You can even do it with you QWRTY keyboard most likely.

[SunkLo]

There was another thread a while back asking about drums and I recommended watching tutorials for drummers on youtube. Bonham's Fool in the Rain has a dope half time pattern that could fit into a dubstep context and will teach you about superposition of patterns. Just watch tons of drumming videos, from funk rock drums, to afro-cuban rhythms, to marching drumlines.

[ehbes]

where the drums should be

c'mon dude

Maybe i should have rephrased it better. Basically, my drum patterns sound pretty boring. I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips as to how i could make mine better or how and where i can some inspiration. Recently, i have been trying to imitate other artists drum patterns but i want to make my own ones

dont just listen to dubstep to get inspiration for drums. Both garage and grime are roughly similar in bpm to dubstep and have their own characteristics for drums.

just a few places to get started, getting digging get inspired

Garage:



Grime:

[cloud90]

There was another thread a while back asking about drums and I recommended watching tutorials for drummers on youtube. Bonham's Fool in the Rain has a dope half time pattern that could fit into a dubstep context and will teach you about superposition of patterns. Just watch tons of drumming videos, from funk rock drums, to afro-cuban rhythms, to marching drumlines.

That sounds like a good idea - watching tutorials.I know this is going to sound really really really stupid but here goes. So if i were to watch tutorials, how would i be able to practice? I don't have a drum machine or anything and i usually just use my drum rack on ableton to make drums patterns.Also you mentioned, watching drumming videos of all genre's but i am worried that if i start watching videos, i am just gonna end up coping their drum patterns and using it as my own. I wanna be able to freely make my own ones off the top of my head without sounding like a complete rip off somebody else's. I understand that over time, my patterns will sound a lot better.

Haha, or maybe i am just over complicating things. I worry a a lot sometimes hah

[cloud90]

where the drums should be

c'mon dude

Maybe i should have rephrased it better. Basically, my drum patterns sound pretty boring. I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips as to how i could make mine better or how and where i can some inspiration. Recently, i have been trying to imitate other artists drum patterns but i want to make my own ones

dont just listen to dubstep to get inspiration for drums. Both garage and grime are roughly similar in bpm to dubstep and have their own characteristics for drums.

just a few places to get started, getting digging get inspired

Garage:



Grime:

Ah, that is veeeerry true! Almost forgot about about those two genre's! Thanks

[SunkLo]

Well if you want to make completely untainted original drum patterns, then you're in the perfect scenario right now. Chances are they'll be a bit plain and shitty though. Also realize, your compositions will still be heavily influenced by all the music you've ever listened to. Nothing is 100% original.

As for how to practice, a drum controller would benefit you a lot. You can still learn by arranging hits on a midi grid. You'll have to pull things slightly off grid to get the groove right.

[cloud90]

Well if you want to make completely untainted original drum patterns, then you're in the perfect scenario right now. Chances are they'll be a bit plain and shitty though. Also realize, your compositions will still be heavily influenced by all the music you've ever listened to. Nothing is 100% original.

As for how to practice, a drum controller would benefit you a lot. You can still learn by arranging hits on a midi grid. You'll have to pull things slightly off grid to get the groove right.

That's the thing. I haven't got a drum controller (hoping to purchase one by the end of the month). I think your idea about watching tutorials is great idea but i just need something to practice on. Hmm, practicing on the computer is cool but it's just not the same really compared to practicing on something that you can actually tap/hit. Maaan.

[cloud90]

I think i recall someone suggesting that i use 909 kick's. However, i am using live 8 and i can't seem to find any 909's. I know there is a 909 on my live 9 but for some reason, my live 9 keeps crashing every now and then. Anyone got any links as to where i can download a 909 kick for ableton?

[SunkLo]

A sample is a sample, what DAW you use isn't important. If you go under Samples in the browser and type 909 in the search box you should find it. Otherwise just google 909 samples, they're like herpes.

[ehbes]

http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/03 ... e-alchemy/

theres a ton of 808 and 909 sample packs. the 909 hi hat is personally one of my favorite samples out there, used alot in techno and grime

[cloud90]

Well if you want to make completely untainted original drum patterns, then you're in the perfect scenario right now. Chances are they'll be a bit plain and shitty though. Also realize, your compositions will still be heavily influenced by all the music you've ever listened to. Nothing is 100% original.

Yeah, i would love to make my own original drum patterns and that's what i am trying to do right now but i just keep getting no where. I have tried listening to other songs but like i said earlier. I am worried that if i listen to other songs, i am going to end up (accidentally recreating/coping/using) using other people's drum patterns. I wanna create that blend where it's my own pattern but with maybe a sprinkle of inspiration from other drum patterns or so.

Not even sure if i managed to explain myself clearly lol

[ehbes]

learn the rulebook, then throw it away

[cloud90]

Good point!!!

[cloud90]

learn the rulebook, then throw it away

good point!!