MPC's Vs MPD's

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:44 pm

If im making dubstep,do i really need to get an mpc??
or can i just settle with one of these baby's?

looks tight.....
http://www.korg.com/KMplay/WMplay.htm?p ... erview.wmv

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:42 pm

You don't NEED an MPC at all to make Dubstep

I have an Akai MPD24 - better build quality than the Korg - feels like a proper piece of kit. but the pads are an aquired taste.

Nothing wrong with the Korg tho - its got some great features.

tempest · Post by **tempest** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:51 pm

Not essential at all, but mad fun. If i had the cash, or found a bargain on an MPC-1000 i'd be all over it just because they are such fun little interactive boxes...

You could always just get a controller with some pads on it if you just wanna tap out some shit for your beats, kill two birds with one stone that way... But admittedly the pads on midi controller keyboards that i've tried don't match those of the akai mpc

auan · Post by **auan** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:28 am

fxpansion Guru seems like better value for money to me if you want to get into the MPC style of making tracks but don't own an MPC already. Plus it goes really well with the Padkontrol, or the MPD24 which I also own and highly recommend.

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:17 am

i think the MPCs are great but depends on the ergonomics of your production style
ive tried mixing sound-generating hardware (MPC and MicroKorg) with my ableton and Vsti set-up and for me it just got fiddly, recording in and having some work on one bit of kit and some work on other, saving to different disks etc (the old MPC zip drives!!)

ive gone to complete software system (also means travelling is easy) and just use a padkontrol for inputting and automating

also works for me bcos i play melodies through the pads and i cant use a keyboard for shite!!

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:51 pm

Chunkie wrote:i think the MPCs are great but depends on the ergonomics of your production style
ive tried mixing sound-generating hardware (MPC and MicroKorg) with my ableton and Vsti set-up and for me it just got fiddly, recording in and having some work on one bit of kit and some work on other, saving to different disks etc (the old MPC zip drives!!)

ive gone to complete software system (also means travelling is easy) and just use a padkontrol for inputting and automating

also works for me bcos i play melodies through the pads and i cant use a keyboard for shite!!

im going software mpd

wasteman · Post by **wasteman** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:22 pm

The MPC is a sequencer, the MPD is a midi controller.

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:51 pm

wasteman wrote:The MPC is a sequencer, the MPD is a midi controller.

sequencer,so u can just tap and make a beat
midi controller as u can do more coming in and out of the device??
please explain more

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:35 pm

the mpc is a whole music-making machine mate

load in your samples (controlled by the pads and assigned over a number of banks)
built-in-sequencer - so set the tempo, play in your music via the pads over however many tracks, you can quantise the playing, adjust notes, chop-up your samples etc
some effects built in too

you can (some hip hop heads still do) - make a whole choon in there with nought else than the samples to load in!!

the mpd/padkontrol are just midi controllers and so have no sounds in them, they just send midi notes to your computer to tell it play the note/beat from there

the mpc is easy to use and the new versions with usb mean samples etc can load from your pc to machine very quickly
(used to have put things on a zip drive for the mpc - all dinosaurs now!)

the problem i had was integrating it into a software set-up cos i'd end up with half a track made on my mpc alone then wanting to use a vst efect on one track whihc meant the tracks had to be saved individually and transported onto my computer

the mpc can do a lot but its sample based so no onboard synth etc

the new ones also give you the option to stick in batteries and churn out a tune on the bus/train then usb it up and get it into your sequencer

i'm a simple creature and its too fiddly for me - i like one set-up full stop

but definite benefits to the mpc - see if you can demo one at a shop somewhere

cryptic · Post by **cryptic** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:57 pm

mpc + battery =

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:03 pm

Chunkie wrote:the mpc is a whole music-making machine mate

load in your samples (controlled by the pads and assigned over a number of banks)
built-in-sequencer - so set the tempo, play in your music via the pads over however many tracks, you can quantise the playing, adjust notes, chop-up your samples etc
some effects built in too

you can (some hip hop heads still do) - make a whole choon in there with nought else than the samples to load in!!

the mpd/padkontrol are just midi controllers and so have no sounds in them, they just send midi notes to your computer to tell it play the note/beat from there

the mpc is easy to use and the new versions with usb mean samples etc can load from your pc to machine very quickly
(used to have put things on a zip drive for the mpc - all dinosaurs now!)

the problem i had was integrating it into a software set-up cos i'd end up with half a track made on my mpc alone then wanting to use a vst efect on one track whihc meant the tracks had to be saved individually and transported onto my computer

the mpc can do a lot but its sample based so no onboard synth etc

the new ones also give you the option to stick in batteries and churn out a tune on the bus/train then usb it up and get it into your sequencer

i'm a simple creature and its too fiddly for me - i like one set-up full stop

but definite benefits to the mpc - see if you can demo one at a shop somewhere

thanks for the information

im def gonna get an mpc,im gonna have fun with the mpd first,so when i lay out all that cash for a decent mpc,i at least have some experience.
its hard... because i like the making music,as opposed to building it on a screen

im just gonna get my samples and then make it real time,and record it

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:07 pm

CRYPTIC wrote:mpc + battery =

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:17 pm

samples seem like a hassle but buy a battery soundset or even download user made ones from the internet then load up the wav's to an mpc

its easy enough

quick note on the mpd make sure the computer is quick enough not to incur lots of latency

four years ago i had a dell inspiron 900 mhz laptop with 256 ram and usb 1.1, using logic and battery with an mpd 16 - the latency was so bad, i had no joy, evrything sounded like i was dropped at birth and i returned the mpd for summits else

i assume this is nothing near the case as long as usb 2 is in place and you've got a modern-ish computer

have fun mate

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:05 pm

Chunkie wrote:samples seem like a hassle but buy a battery soundset or even download user made ones from the internet then load up the wav's to an mpc

its easy enough

quick note on the mpd make sure the computer is quick enough not to incur lots of latency

four years ago i had a dell inspiron 900 mhz laptop with 256 ram and usb 1.1, using logic and battery with an mpd 16 - the latency was so bad, i had no joy, evrything sounded like i was dropped at birth and i returned the mpd for summits else

i assume this is nothing near the case as long as usb 2 is in place and you've got a modern-ish computer

have fun mate

cheers 4 the advice

my pc is alright
intel duo core 2ghz
2gig ram

dj acto · Post by **dj acto** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:39 pm

MPC's are sooo cool but is ther any point in getting an MPC500 or should i just wait and save up for a 1000?

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:32 pm

I dont make "beats" as such, but the little MPCs are SO cute

if ever (never) make anything of myself ifnancially

i want one of these to play with on journeys!

auan · Post by **auan** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:44 pm

Can't really see myself sequencing anything on that tiny screen, I'd say wait for the 1000.

djpatchwork · Post by **djpatchwork** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:19 pm

while we're all here... i just bought an MPD off my partner (because he got too frustrated trying to figure it out)... and i've got a couple questions...

first off are there any easy tutorials on how to use it (outside the manual)...

...and second off is there any sort of program that emulates an MPC 2000 (or something) that i can hook up to my MPD and use just like an actual sampler (as opposed to a midi controller?)... because that would be amazing... if i were able to tap out a beat on the pad and see an MPC on my computer screen.....

thanks for any help on the subject...

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:44 pm

djpatchwork wrote:while we're all here... i just bought an MPD off my partner (because he got too frustrated trying to figure it out)... and i've got a couple questions...

first off are there any easy tutorials on how to use it (outside the manual)...

...and second off is there any sort of program that emulates an MPC 2000 (or something) that i can hook up to my MPD and use just like an actual sampler (as opposed to a midi controller?)... because that would be amazing... if i were able to tap out a beat on the pad and see an MPC on my computer screen.....

thanks for any help on the subject...

reason or apleton live

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:40 pm

Auan wrote:Can't really see myself sequencing anything on that tiny screen, I'd say wait for the 1000.

the lack of the screen is one of the best parts of the mpc-- just use yr ears. only thing that sucks is always scrolling thru sounds and such.

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