Audition 3

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:19 pm

looks like they're going into DAW territory now, with VSTi support.

either way Audition is hevy, I'm looking forward to this new version, out in November.

For those that didn't know, Audition used to be Cool Edit.

http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/audition/

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:32 pm

I bought cooledit back before Adobe acquired Syntrillium

IMHO...

this does nothing that good old audacity cant (except handle 24bit audio)

I'm sticking with Audacity cuz it's free

if you find some cool features in Audition 3, please let me know. I kinda miss it.

SHAFEY · Post by **SHAFEY** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:41 pm

unklefesta wrote:
this does nothing that good old audacity cant (except handle 24bit audio)

Audition is so much more precise! Audacity is a wicked free program but I'd use Audition over it anyday. Audacity doesn't have a multi-track either does it?

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:01 pm

unklefesta wrote:if you find some cool features in Audition 3, please let me know. I kinda miss it.

there is actually a shit load of stuff u can do in 2 that you cant in audacity, also now in 3, like I said, it has VSTi support, which audacity def doesn't have.

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:10 pm

I totally hear where you are both coming from.

only that...

I use Nuendo for a sequencer, so all I would be using Audacity, and Audition for is 2-track editing.

no need to stick my vsti's or multitrack in there.

therefore, I cannot justyfy the expenditure

relik · Post by **relik** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:44 pm

Shafey wrote:Audacity doesn't have a multi-track either does it?

Audacity allows you to have multi-tracks. It does have support for VST too but not VSTi plugins. To use VSTs you need to use VST Enabler.

westernsynthetics · Post by **westernsynthetics** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:27 am

dont buy Audition.

If you are serious about making music.

If you want to cut ringtones and do basic wav editing get a crack version of Audition. But dont bother if you want to get serious.

nuff said

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:42 pm

u cant jus leave it there, tell us why...

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:55 pm

Audition does enough for me, i like it.

I thought it was a collabo of Cool Edit and Soundforge programming.

Audition 3
http://www.adobe.com/products//audition/index.html

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:57 pm

twatty vagitis wrote:u cant jus leave it there, tell us why...

because VERY soon you'll reach the program's limit - be itching for more and have to reach into your pockets again to start afresh with one of the more developed programs

if money is the thing get Live 6 Lite or Logic Express and at then at least i) youve got a complete professional program and ii) when needs be you can upgrade to the full software and be laughing!

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:06 pm

westernsynthetics wrote:dont buy Audition.

If you are serious about making music.

If you want to cut ringtones and do basic wav editing get a crack version of Audition. But dont bother if you want to get serious.

nuff said

4 real

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:40 pm

Chunkie wrote:
twatty vagitis wrote:u cant jus leave it there, tell us why...
because VERY soon you'll reach the program's limit - be itching for more and have to reach into your pockets again to start afresh with one of the more developed programs

if money is the thing get Live 6 Lite or Logic Express and at then at least i) youve got a complete professional program and ii) when needs be you can upgrade to the full software and be laughing!

I do see what your saying, but you are basing your opinion on something that isn't released yet, which is the VSTi implementation in version 3. If you compare Audition 2 with Logic or Live for wave editing, audition wins hands down, Audition and soundforge (maybe wavelab) are the 3 top wave editing packages of choice for professionals. Now if the new VSTi DAW-style midi sequencing is shit in audition 3 then I will def agree with you. BUT we will have to wait till November for the verdict on that 1.

personally, I'm a reason user, so reason 4 and audition 3 will be the perfect setup for me

westernsynthetics · Post by **westernsynthetics** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:20 am

Audition and soundforge (maybe wavelab) are the 3 top wave editing packages of choice for professionals

you are quite wrong.

Pro Tools is the wav editing software of choice for professionals.

90% of studios worldwide use pro tools.

I use Audition daily to cut ringtones and do basic on the fly wav editing. For this its fantastic. But it dont support rewire or VST, the interface is clunky. ie the mixdown view is shit...u are foced to use envelope filters ect

should i go on?

Even if the new version comes with rewire & vst support it still has a long way to go. And no doubt the first version with rewire and vst support will have bugs and problems...but i stand to be corrected..however i dont have much faith in Adobe...Cool Edit & Audition have never been marketed as a"pro" audio solution....hence the names cool edit & Audition..lol

if u use reason and have some cash...invest in pro tools..the rewire is virtually seamless. If you dont have the cash get Cubase.

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:01 pm

90% ey? also, did you know 83% of all statistics are made up? or was it 84%, cant remember now

beleive me, i aint some fanboy, tbh if u think audition is featureless, then thats ur opinion an i respect that, but let me clear some things up because for someone who claims to use it, you dont know much about it.

you say it doesn't support rewire or VST. When it actually supports both, the only thing it doesn't support is VSTi's (bring on Auditin 3) I regularly use the waves bundle and more recently, the sonnox oxford plugs, for mastering etc within Audition.

Clunky interface? Again, not true, see pix below for proof, its actually a very nice looking and very logical GUI.

Forced to use envelope filters etc.? Wrong again, see above for vst support lol, the multitrak also supports busses and a high intergration of automation, much like protools.

As for bugs, admitedly I am by far a 'Power' user (whatever that means) but I have yet to experience a crash in audition 2, even with reason rewired and a bunch of vsts open.

and your last point, why the fuk would i want cubase lol I hate it tbh, if I was to take the plunge and buy a fully functional DAW, it would be Ableton Live, but I love reason & audition too much to give them both up

from a non-fanboy position you understand...

westernsynthetics · Post by **westernsynthetics** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:46 am

im not using the version in your pics...i thought i was using the latest version...silly me. Now im interested.... what version is that? my version dont have those features..

but i am right about pro tools...most pro studios use it.

FSTZ · Post by **FSTZ** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:13 pm

I have been to many professional studios and I used to work in a pro tools HD studio (apogee rosetta 800 FTW)

almost all industry studios run pro tools HD with AWS or Neve consoles

some have the Digi Consoles (but IMHO they are wack)

no major studio uses Adobe Audition

oh but those ghost hunter dudes from taps catch some nutty EVP's of ghosts on them!

even if you dont use pro tools at home (I don't), knowing how to use the program, will come in handy if you fancy yourself a professional.

chunkie · Post by **chunkie** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:48 pm

on the back of what Festa said,

i worked on a hip hop mixtape last year and had to go local to the mcs - so used about 14 studios over london, none of them ran Audition!

it was either logic or pro tools, with one guy on cubase

using industry recognized software, especially the likes of Pro Tools and Logic etc means you can take your track into a pro studio in its sequencer state and not be having to start bouncing tracks down only for the engineer to have a go at something (like too much reverb on your snare) then spend ages on corrective mixing

plus, if you do go to a pro studio it means you can pick up on their experience/techniques and integrate them into what you do at home

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:54 pm

Chunkie wrote:using industry recognized software, especially the likes of Pro Tools and Logic etc means you can take your track into a pro studio in its sequencer state and not be having to start bouncing tracks down only for the engineer to have a go at something (like too much reverb on your snare) then spend ages on corrective mixing

thats a very good point, beleive me, I do understand the reason for industry standards, in my business (which is not music related) I also use the industry standard softwares, for tight integration with other companies.

I was just tryin to make the point that just because Audition isn't industry standard, it does not necesarily mean its pants.

westernsynthetics: that was Audition 2

(on a side note, you never realise how much you use a forum till its gone do ya lol. jus goes to show how big the genres getting now, if your rinsin out ur bandwidth)

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