Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by Johnlenham » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:24 am

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SCope13 wrote:would probably try it once if i came across it. Not exactly common where I live by any stretch of the imagination so chance of dependence would be pretty slim.
Don't bother. It just makes you all slow and dumb. I had a funny conversation the time I took it but other wise just spent the time sat down in a chair feeling like a right speng.
Most people are going to go the line of "well Ill try it once and see how it goes" Its certainly an odd one. I have no earthly idea how you do that shit out though. Cant seehow people kane it week after week.

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by Johoosh » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:37 am

Whenever my mates do K they just end up stacking it and annoying people in the dance

Don't see how its fun to be leaning on a wall dribbling for 2hrs of Mala b2b Goth Trad
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by wub » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:45 am

Johoosh wrote:Whenever my mates do K they just end up stacking it and annoying people in the dance

Don't see how its fun to be leaning on a wall dribbling for 2hrs of Mala b2b Goth Trad
Yeah, doing too much when you're out is counterproductive as you turn into a turnip.

But a few little bumps, just enough to give you moon boots without the full on FUCK MY SPINE HAS DECIDED TO DETACH FROM MY NERVOUS SYSTEM style vibes.

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by m8son666 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:20 am

some retarded uninformed science itt. No tolerance to mandy? haven't you heard of it losing it's magic? after one use the serotonin in your brain has been all but completely deplenished if you do another dose the next day there will be hardly any effect, let alone doing it everyday for a extended period.

ketamine is not detectable in urine after 2-4 days so agent is kinda right although obviously even if you do it every weekend it's gonna fuck you up eventually

your body not having the tools to break down synthetic material wtf are you talking about?
When administered orally, it undergoes first-pass metabolism, where it is biotransformed in the liver by CYP3A4 (major), CYP2B6 (minor), and CYP2C9 (minor) isoenzymes into norketamine (through N-demethylation) and finally dehydronorketamine. Intermediate in the biotransformation of norketamine into dehydronorketamine is the hydroxylation of norketamine into 5-hydroxynorketamine by CYP2B6 and CYP2A6. Dehydronorketamine, followed by norketamine, is the most prevalent metabolite detected in urine.
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In my opinion if bud is a class B then so should K, although dr nutt made a good point he said that if it goes class B then vets won't be able to use it in the field and the poor animals will suffer so i dunno.
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by Johnlenham » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:34 am

wub wrote:
Johoosh wrote:Whenever my mates do K they just end up stacking it and annoying people in the dance

Don't see how its fun to be leaning on a wall dribbling for 2hrs of Mala b2b Goth Trad
Yeah, doing too much when you're out is counterproductive as you turn into a turnip.

But a few little bumps, just enough to give you moon boots without the full on FUCK MY SPINE HAS DECIDED TO DETACH FROM MY NERVOUS SYSTEM style vibes.
My two experiences:
This is fucking weird but pretty funny
Im going to sit down now
Blank
Open my eyes, things come back in to focus.
WTF just happend.

:lol:

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by DiegoSapiens » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:36 am

I was saying exactly the opposite m8son calm down.
The tolerance you gain with it dont get recovered with time, sorry if i expressed it badly
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by wub » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:37 am

Johnlenham wrote:
wub wrote:
Johoosh wrote:Whenever my mates do K they just end up stacking it and annoying people in the dance

Don't see how its fun to be leaning on a wall dribbling for 2hrs of Mala b2b Goth Trad
Yeah, doing too much when you're out is counterproductive as you turn into a turnip.

But a few little bumps, just enough to give you moon boots without the full on FUCK MY SPINE HAS DECIDED TO DETACH FROM MY NERVOUS SYSTEM style vibes.
My two experiences:
This is fucking weird but pretty funny
Im going to sit down now
Blank
Open my eyes, things come back in to focus.
WTF just happend.

:lol:

Mixing it with something out of the 2C family and then doing a balloon on top, you get some proper warpspeed moments going on.

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by m8son666 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:39 am

DiegoSapiens wrote:I was saying exactly the opposite m8son calm down.
The tolerance you gain with it dont get recovered with time, sorry if i expressed it badly
ahh i get ya sorry
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by Johoosh » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:59 am

wub wrote:Mixing it with something out of the 2C family and then doing a balloon on top, you get some proper warpspeed moments going on.
Fuck that conveyor belt vibes.

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by gwa » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:23 pm

kets great when on other drugs.

as wub said balloons are great on it, as well as some bing
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by SCope13 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:24 pm

wub wrote:
Johnlenham wrote:
wub wrote:
Johoosh wrote:Whenever my mates do K they just end up stacking it and annoying people in the dance

Don't see how its fun to be leaning on a wall dribbling for 2hrs of Mala b2b Goth Trad
Yeah, doing too much when you're out is counterproductive as you turn into a turnip.

But a few little bumps, just enough to give you moon boots without the full on FUCK MY SPINE HAS DECIDED TO DETACH FROM MY NERVOUS SYSTEM style vibes.
My two experiences:
This is fucking weird but pretty funny
Im going to sit down now
Blank
Open my eyes, things come back in to focus.
WTF just happend.

:lol:

Mixing it with something out of the 2C family and then doing a balloon on top, you get some proper warpspeed moments going on.
what in the hell is a balloon lol
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by gwa » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:25 pm

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by wub » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:26 pm

SCope13 wrote:
wub wrote:
Johnlenham wrote:
wub wrote:
Johoosh wrote:Whenever my mates do K they just end up stacking it and annoying people in the dance

Don't see how its fun to be leaning on a wall dribbling for 2hrs of Mala b2b Goth Trad
Yeah, doing too much when you're out is counterproductive as you turn into a turnip.

But a few little bumps, just enough to give you moon boots without the full on FUCK MY SPINE HAS DECIDED TO DETACH FROM MY NERVOUS SYSTEM style vibes.
My two experiences:
This is fucking weird but pretty funny
Im going to sit down now
Blank
Open my eyes, things come back in to focus.
WTF just happend.

:lol:

Mixing it with something out of the 2C family and then doing a balloon on top, you get some proper warpspeed moments going on.
what in the hell is a balloon lol
I think your people call it "whippets"

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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by m8son666 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:27 pm

i spent a vast majority of my teenage years doing k to rid myself from mcat comedowns, so it does have it's purposes
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by SCope13 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:28 pm

Ah haha alright. had some friends get some of them here a few days ago, said it was nuts
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by nowaysj » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:50 pm

Can tell you this much: when I was 8 yo, went to the dentist and the fucker gave me N2O, directly in front of the dentist's chair was a picture of an orangutan... that shit was so funny I fell out of the chair, dentist sent me home, couldn't work on me.

MD's what is the long term effect of regular N20 use?
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by m8son666 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:55 pm

It's been shown to cause olney's legions (form of brain damage) in mice, but this hasn't been replicated in monkeys so can't really generalise to humans and no where near as bad as other NMDAr antagonists (ketamine and pcp). It also can cause B12 deficiency. oh yeah and it's an easy way of identifying yourself as a twat.

It works in a similar mechanism to ketamine actually.
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by bennyfroobs » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:15 pm

altho theyre fun fuck nos balloons man ive seen people turn blue in the face and fall over and STILL try to puff on those things

dat oxygen starvation
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Re: Ketamine 'should be upgraded to Class B'

Post by kaili » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:42 am

Sinestepper wrote:you ket ed! :)
A guy i know over here (kaili knows him, bet you can guess to ben) like hammers this shit daily its kind of worrying, hes already had like days at a time where he couldnt leave his room because of the pain.
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