Syria, Iraq, and the Road To Hell

[CreamLord]

Can't tell if you're being serious or not....

[m8son666]

whats not serious about the american government manipulating us?

[CreamLord]

I just hate it when some sort of tragic incident happens and straight away people on the Internet talk about conspiracies and how the government planned it all. Like innocent people have just died, try to have at least some respect

[m8son666]

I just hate it when some sort of tragic incident happens and straight away people on the Internet talk about conspiracies and how the government planned it all. Like innocent people have just died, try to have at least some respect

yeah but how do you know they really died? have you been to the Kenyan mall yourself?

you need to stop trusting mainstream media bro

[MrBlack]

^Exactly, innocent people die daily all over the world. The media focuses attention on violence carried out by muslims. Hmmmmmm...........

[CreamLord]

Sorry bro, I see what you mean now bro, I'll only follow the underground media bro. You've opened my eyes to the corrupt media and illuminati bro. From now on whenever something happens in another country I'll buy £600 ticket and check it out for myself bro

[m8son666]

exactly, thank you! it just feels so good when you open someone elses eyes to the blatantly obvious

[CreamLord]

You're a hero m8

[Devilsindub]

Sorry bro, I see what you mean now bro, I'll only follow the underground media bro. You've opened my eyes to the corrupt media and illuminati bro. From now on whenever something happens in another country I'll buy £600 ticket and check it out for myself bro

[bennyfroobs]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 05332.html

update, if anyone cares

[titchbit]

lol. written by Patrick Cockburn. look at that guy's face.

[ezza]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 05332.html

update, if anyone cares

obviously no one cares anymore

its been like a month m8

[test_recordings]

I noticed the news saying NATO had stopped equipping the rebels but without much reason why. This is going to spiral out of control now, meaning we need to watch even closer to make sure it doesn't bite someone in the arse.

Is full scale NATO intervention going to ever happen? I think the least worse situation is that Assad wins

[bennyfroobs]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 05332.html

update, if anyone cares

obviously no one cares anymore

its been like a month m8

haha well it went from being literally EVERYWHERE on the interwebs to like nowhere s:

wasnt insinuating that people stopped giving a shit on here haha

i raelise that did come across as 12year old american girl 'watever' kinda thing but it wasnt intended that way haha

[titchbit]

best case scenario tbf would be re-elect bush and just let him figure it out

imo

[test_recordings]

He'd already have it figured out: get the cowboy hat and war face on

[alphacat]

Just seeing this now, good one Bennyfroobs.

Edited the thread title to reflect the current reality of the situation.

A prime indicator that the so-called power elites are NOT as in charge, organized and smart as they think they are. The West got into bed w/ the Saudis and got crabs from this, so to speak.

Some choice quotes:

Confusion over what is happening is so great that Western leaders may not pay as much of a political price at home as they should for the failure of their Syrian policy. But it is worth recalling that the Syrian National Coalition and the FSA are the same people for whom the US and UK almost went to war in August, and saw as candidates to replace Assad in power in Damascus. The recent debacle shows how right public opinion in both countries was to reject military intervention.

An interesting example of just how hands-on this Saudi direction has become is illustrated by a fascinating interview given by a top defector from the FSA to Isil, Saddam al-Jamal. Commander of the Liwa Allah Akbar battalion, he was until recently the top FSA commander in eastern Syria, much of which is under rebel control. Questioned by his new ally, according to a translation by the Brown Moses Blog, he recalls that “we used to meet with the apostates of Qatar and Saudi Arabia and with the infidels of Western nations such as America and France in order to receive arms and ammo or cash”. He says Western intelligence operatives had of late been worried about the growing influence of al-Qa’ida affiliates and repeatedly asked him why he was growing a beard.

Jamal gives an account of a recent three-day meeting between the FSA commanders from northern and eastern Syria with Western, Saudi, Qatari, Emirati and Jordanian intelligence operatives. This appears to have been soon after the Saudis took over the Syria file from the Qataris. He says the FSA commanders, including General Idris, had a meeting with Prince Salman bin Sultan, the Saudi deputy defence minister who was the leading figure at the meeting. Jamal says that Prince Salman “asked those who had plans to attack Assad positions to present their needs for arms, ammo and money”.

The picture that Mr Jamal paints is of an FSA that was a complete pawn to foreign intelligence agencies, which is one reason why he defected. The Saudis subsequently decided that the FSA would not serve their purposes, and were frustrated by America backing away from war in Syria and confrontation with Iran. They set about using their limitless funds to attract into alliances rebel brigades such as the Islamic Front which would be Sunni fundamentalist, committed to the overthrow of Assad, against political negotiations, but distinct from al-Qa’ida. In reality, it looks highly unlikely that Saudi money will be enough to bring down or even significantly weaken Assad though it may be enough to keep a war going for years.

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We are so, so clueless.

[nowaysj]

I disagree. Mission Accomplished as far as I'm concerned.

[OGLemon]

[Sexual_Chocolate]

i really wanted to visit syria.

not now.