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m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:51 pm

remember how you were sure something was gonna kick off 6 months ago and it never did, well this is just like that time.

Sheff · Post by **Sheff** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:53 pm

Yeah nobody likes a warmonger

also 3000th post

alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:20 pm

Well, tbf I don't think this might (operative word) snowball into something big and violent and international. Just an internal purge. It's like a fucked up, morbid soap opera. I'm kinda hooked too.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:54 pm

Come on, any country with a 330 meter tall giant pyramid can't be all bad.

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alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:18 am

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/1 ... q-mG6a9LCQ

alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:40 am

yonhapnews wrote:
N. Korea threatens to strike South 'without notice'

SEOUL, Dec. 20 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has threatened to strike South Korea in response to conservatives' anti-Pyongyang rallies here on the second death anniversary of its leader Kim Jong-il earlier this week, a senior military official said Friday.

The North's powerful National Defense Commission on Thursday sent a fax to South Korea's National Security Council through the western coastal military hotline to threaten to strike the South "without notice," the official said.

The latest threat came after several conservative groups and North Korean defectors on Tuesday held rallies in Seoul to protest against North Korea's authoritarian rule and human rights abuse, with some burning Kim Jong-un's photo.

SCope13 · Post by **SCope13** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:38 am

Wrote a 15 page paper on this stuff for one of my finals. Was brutal, but insightful.

alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:44 am

SCope13 wrote:Wrote a 15 page paper on this stuff for one of my finals. Was brutal, but insightful.

What class/thesis?

kirky · Post by **kirky** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:18 am

So they sent them a notice, to say they were going to strike without notice?

SCope13 · Post by **SCope13** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:28 am

alphacat wrote:
SCope13 wrote:Wrote a 15 page paper on this stuff for one of my finals. Was brutal, but insightful.
What class/thesis?

Intro to World Politics. Specifically, it was was about Chinese expansion in the South and East China Sea's. Had to analyze the situation and compare it to this book we read (The Paradox of American Power by Joseph Nye) and describe courses of actions the US and China's neighbors could take.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:17 am

So what are the course of action that the US and China's neighbors are going to take?

A couple of years ago I became aware of dark/advisory spec ops type people moving to the Philippines. Certainly anticipated it was because of the expansion of China's military power in the area.

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:22 am

alphacat wrote:http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/1 ... q-mG6a9LCQ

This just passed over everyone's heads. No-one in the country is taking it seriously because, if they were, they would have issued a public notice of retaliation just to make it look like they aren't going to be caught off guard.

Seriously, NK is not going to start something near China's expanded air identification zone because the US, SK and Japan all have military floating around the place because of it...

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:18 am

alphacat wrote:N. Korea threatens to strike South 'without notice'

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:32 pm

North Korea are all talk an no action, they suck

alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:53 pm

Interesting stuff...

So it seems there's a little drama being played out semi-covertly pitting Russia against the Saudis. The Saudis have been (allegedly) funding the Sunni Caucasus Islamic separatists, who have been a massive pain in the ass for the Russians.

Prince Bandar - head of Saudi "security" - approached Putin, apparently backed or at least w/ the knowledge of the US, and made an offer to, among other things, decrease Russian support for Iran & Syria (whose leadership are not Sunni) and partner in the Russians with the OPEC-aligned states (IMO possibly colluding for the purposes of price fixing)...

Putin essentially said thanks but no thanks to most all of this:

the possible upshot? The Volgograd bombing.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politic ... egypt.html#

Much of this stuff is speculatory on the part of informed analysts, but it puts a new twist in the run-up to the Olympics, that's for sure.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:56 pm

No doubt. The Olympic Games should be interesting, with the threats the Saudi's have made.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:57 pm

Tie in to the Boston Bombing. A sort of primer.

faultier · Post by **faultier** » Wed May 07, 2014 8:05 am

The crisis in Ukraine is serious. At some point soon, reality needs to become the priority. No more name-calling. No more blaming. If there are any adults in the room, they need to stand up. The crisis in Ukraine is going critical, and that is a fact.

The first fact. The Ukraine has 15 nuclear reactors loaded with a 1000 tons or more of radioactive fuels. The largest nuclear reactor in Europe is on the Dneiper River, a little north of Crimea. Plus, there are the 4 Chernobyl reactors, still leaking radiation, still needing constant attention. A rational world cannot tolerate chaos, or a collapsed economy, or a civil war, or any kind of war, in a region with nuclear reactors. If the power grid fails, if workers are unable or unwilling to show up for their shifts, if there is an act of sabotage, an act of war, if something happens to a nuclear reactor, then the Ukraine, Europe, Russia, and the rest of the world will receive heavy doses of radioactive fallout. There is now no government in Ukraine with the resources to manage a nuclear catastrophe.

The second fact. The ability to start a war has now been distributed across hundreds of relatively low-ranked individuals, on both sides. NATO nations, including Canada, have moved military aircraft to front-line states and have begun armed missions along the Russian border. Russia has been matching these with deployments of interceptors and missile batteries along its borders and in Byelorussia. Accusations of border violations are already appearing. New NATO warships have entered the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea. The Ukraine and Russia have both moved military units to their border. Thus, there are now hundreds of armed and ready military personnel on both sides, any one of whom, for any reason, can cross a border, can shoot a missile, can start a war. In the Ukraine, large numbers of anti-Russia militia are eager to provoke Russia to invade Ukraine, and equal numbers of anti-Kiev militia are also eager to provoke Russia to invade Ukraine. War now waits on hair-triggers, hundreds of them. If an incident turns into a war, it would quickly turn into a missile war, and maybe into a global nuclear war.

In 2014, on the one century anniversary of World War I, European nations are again mobilizing for war. As in 1914, so in 2014, war is not for repelling an attack, but for loyalty to an alliance, even when some members of the alliance are belligerent. The 1914 war was supposed to be over by Christmas, but went on and on and on for years, killing 9 million people. The 2014 war, if its starts in earnest, will be over in one week, maybe less, and could kill a 100 million people depending on how many nuclear reactors break open and how many nuclear missiles are launched. The 1914 war was called “the war to end all wars”. The 2014 war will be that. (...)

The pieces of the Ukraine crisis all come from the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union 25 years ago: a) oligarchs controlling and corrupting the government, b) regions that are predominantly Russian-speaking, c) neo-fascists with a hatred of Russians and other minorities, and d) NATO nations investing in chances to imperil Russia. It will be difficult for Ukraine, EU, and Russia to escape horrific outcomes unless concerted actions are taken to change the course of events. People need to press their governments to start acting for the well-being of the region’s societies, and stop acting out historical bad habits and loyalty to alliances.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/06/ ... ukraine-2/

_ronzlo_ · Post by **_ronzlo_** » Wed May 07, 2014 5:23 pm

Grim. Seriously, seriously grim. And everybody has been pretty glib about this shit, but if/when it hits the fan...

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Wed May 07, 2014 6:00 pm

We're not there yet. The UK border was compromised by paper documents. And then catastrophe. Can't let that happen again.

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