Junglists getting angry about people jumping ships !

skosh · Post by **skosh** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:22 am

Paradigm X wrote:
DramaGeddon wrote: I know its not all like that, but it's 30% weak liquid, 30% terrible amen/reece noise, 30% jump-up clown shit and 10% decent dNb.
a very wise man once said 90% of everything is rubbish

worth a ponder.

I see dubstep as an addition to dnb, not a replacement. Give it time and all the things you hate about dnb will have come into dubstep.

Theres good music in all genres, just hard to find the good tracks. To my mind, as dubstep is so new, theres not that many tunes to go thru and therefore its easier to find the good stuff. DNB has been around what 12 years or so (dont want to get into an argument about hardcore/jungle/dnb terminology and dates) so theres far more stuff to wade thru. See above.

But im having a load of fun writing dubstep at the mo so i couldnt care less about ships, jumping or otherwise.

Peas

PDX

hiya there! wouldnt mind hearin the stuff your makin...any cello samples in?

paradigm_x · Post by **paradigm_x** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:27 am

hi

just saw you here and thought id check youre still celloing ! see mypsace
Ben PDX

not yet (but i did record 2 entire practice sessions for adriannes audition - tons of samples). Only been doing dubstep for 3 days

Shes playing on my next evil dnb outing tho (coming out on the exegene cd!)

Hows you ?

Theres a PM waiting for you of my dubstep work in progress but its not finished yet

Cheers m'dears

skosh · Post by **skosh** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:31 am

Paradigm X wrote:hi

just saw you here and thought id check youre still celloing ! see mypsace
Ben PDX

not yet (but i did record 2 entire practice sessions for adriannes audition - tons of samples). Only been doing dubstep for 3 days

Shes playing on my next evil dnb outing tho (coming out on the exegene cd!)

Hows you ?

Theres a PM waiting for you of my dubstep work in progress but its not finished yet

Cheers m'dears

ah nice one, getting that now, umm the cello is at standstill atm, havnt had the time or energy to do much with it, but it looks nice in the corner of my bedroom beside my vase of flowers lol....i'm not concerned cos i hadn't planned to get my cello till i was 50 anyway, so i'm still 1.5 years ahead of schedule haha

dramageddon · Post by **dramageddon** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:39 pm

skosh wrote:
Paradigm X wrote:
DramaGeddon wrote: I know its not all like that, but it's 30% weak liquid, 30% terrible amen/reece noise, 30% jump-up clown shit and 10% decent dNb.
a very wise man once said 90% of everything is rubbish

worth a ponder.

I see dubstep as an addition to dnb, not a replacement. Give it time and all the things you hate about dnb will have come into dubstep.

Theres good music in all genres, just hard to find the good tracks. To my mind, as dubstep is so new, theres not that many tunes to go thru and therefore its easier to find the good stuff. DNB has been around what 12 years or so (dont want to get into an argument about hardcore/jungle/dnb terminology and dates) so theres far more stuff to wade thru. See above.

But im having a load of fun writing dubstep at the mo so i couldnt care less about ships, jumping or otherwise.

Peas

PDX

Yea Im not jumping ships/saying its a replacement etc... just having healthy/unhealthy music banter! Ive never restricted myself to one style anyway. Its just all the elements I loved in DnB are pretty much extinct now and have raised their ugly head in dubstep.. and for me thats very exciting!

kion · Post by **kion** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:45 pm

It ain't about jumping ship - just about moving with teh times. I was bang into hip house once upon a time, and belgian hardcore once upon another time and so on etc. I still love listening to jungle and I'd still go to a jungle/dnb dance, but if it fell on the same night as a dubstep night, I'd choose the latter as I've done the dnb rave thing to death.

btw ello Skosh

good to see you here.

skosh · Post by **skosh** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:11 pm

KION wrote:It ain't about jumping ship - just about moving with teh times. I was bang into hip house once upon a time, and belgian hardcore once upon another time and so on etc. I still love listening to jungle and I'd still go to a jungle/dnb dance, but if it fell on the same night as a dubstep night, I'd choose the latter as I've done the dnb rave thing to death.

btw ello Skosh good to see you here.

hiya what's hip house?

dept of hell science · Post by **dept of hell science** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:36 pm

^^^technotronic, cut n move, beatmasters

used to love that shit myself...

...especially the beat masters betty boo was the shit

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:40 pm

There's a lot of ignorance in this thread.

Read this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep

gotc · Post by **gotc** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:14 am

About dnb, you should all check the "Unsung heroes" cd that come's with the new Knowledge. Tracks by Macc, Sileni, Fracture & Neptune, Martsman, ...

mary anne hobbs · Post by **mary anne hobbs** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:01 pm

i reckon the trick is, to free your mind...
listen, without imposing boundaries or prejudice of any kind and you'll discover so much music to love..
my favourite d&b record of this moment is Amit's new album 'Never Ending' up-coming on Klute's label Commercial Suicide in May.. it's outstanding..
droppin' a beat from it on the show Monday...
as well as spankin' new Benga, Oris Jay and Hijak dubz

m/a.. x

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:53 pm

Of course junglists are angry... their music has been shit for 8 years

moldy · Post by **moldy** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:41 pm

gotc wrote:About dnb, you should all check the "Unsung heroes" cd that come's with the new Knowledge. Tracks by Macc, Sileni, Fracture & Neptune, Martsman, ...

Among others...

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:44 pm

moldy wrote:
gotc wrote:About dnb, you should all check the "Unsung heroes" cd that come's with the new Knowledge. Tracks by Macc, Sileni, Fracture & Neptune, Martsman, ...
Among others...

noone important

stormfield · Post by **stormfield** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:47 pm

Klute did some proper dark electro tracks on Fear of People... sick tunes

moldy · Post by **moldy** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:02 pm

auralassassin wrote:
moldy wrote:
gotc wrote:About dnb, you should all check the "Unsung heroes" cd that come's with the new Knowledge. Tracks by Macc, Sileni, Fracture & Neptune, Martsman, ...
Among others...
noone important

Uh, Ok...

auralassassin · Post by **auralassassin** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:04 pm

just kidding soldier.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:43 pm

mary anne hobbs wrote: my favourite d&b record of this moment is Amit's new album 'Never Ending' up-coming on Klute's label Commercial Suicide in May.. it's outstanding..

seconded. the klute&amit tour just came through new york last week, and absolutely destroyed the place. dirtbox from the album, is a real dirty tune. amit is amazing.

dramageddon · Post by **dramageddon** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:51 pm

mary anne hobbs wrote:i reckon the trick is, to free your mind...
listen, without imposing boundaries or prejudice of any kind and you'll discover so much music to love..
my favourite d&b record of this moment is Amit's new album 'Never Ending' up-coming on Klute's label Commercial Suicide in May.. it's outstanding..
droppin' a beat from it on the show Monday...
as well as spankin' new Benga, Oris Jay and Hijak dubz

m/a.. x

Yea I know Amit and I have to give him props he's doing his own thing and its working, but as a scene I think the walls of creativity have become narrower and up and coming producers are scared to express themselves and are just playing it safe writing a club banger.
I love all good music Im not trying to be negative about the genre, but back when Source direct, photek, hidden agenda, krust etc.. were experimenting with minimal DnB it worked so well..

..
I know its just evolution of a genre.. but sometimes evolution doesn't do any favours for the music, look at American rap/hip-hop... sold its soul for money.. now that's the 'true' power of the dollar!

mary anne hobbs · Post by **mary anne hobbs** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:19 pm

DramaGeddon

re: hip-hop:

so much underground fire rite now..
a few bits to chek:

Shadowhuntaz on Skam
Dalek on Mike Patton's label Ipeac
also Tolcha's new collab with RQM - 'World Is A Ghetto' which ima drop on Monday nite
UTZ & Dunlock Blackson
Ghostface and MF Doom
also Roots Manuva's recent album 'Alternately Deep'

m/a.. x

mary anne hobbs · Post by **mary anne hobbs** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:22 pm

also DramaGeddon

check:

Semtex on Friday and Saturday nite on 1xtra
7-10pm...
i learn so much from him and find so much to love in every last one of his shows...

m/a.. x

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