WW2 trauma...does it persist transgenerationally?

[alphacat]

^^Are you proud of what your Grandpa did?

I am proud of his ability to survive it all and put it in some kind of sane context.

And also proud that he helped liberate the concentration camps.

Man was no saint, but then again so are most of us.

[nowaysj]

Was he of monumental stature, as well?

[lovelydivot]

Worse than hipster - Is hipster lesbian.



You know - whatever - I tried.

[nowaysj]

transgenerational hipster lesbians... the worst.

[lovelydivot]

transgenerational hipster lesbians... the worst.

I know - That's like - an angry Laura Kroft or - The Devil Wearing Prada...

Tina Fey with an uber bitch complex...



It's Ayn Rand....

How chilling is that!!!

[lovelydivot]

No - Not Ayn Rand...

I think she's really smart - probably more of a product of her age than say, Kanye...
I'm not willing to completely villianize her...yet





I just watched the Hollywood version of The Fountainhead...because Zizek said so...

I got a lot from reading Atlas Shrugged...

[lovelydivot]

...this is still about WWII trauma...I promise

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[wub]

I was tying up some loose ends with my lesbian friend...

and she starts scoffing

[lovelydivot]

What Wub - You asking for the tnuc punt...

Wit your psycho self....moderation you



lol

[nousd]

maybe you've proved that it does, in the States anyway

but in Japan they've probably made it unlikely
with pedagogical amnesia.
Apparently when The Railway Man previewed in Tokyo
(presumably to a hip, educated audience)
the director was confronted with amazement that the Burma Railway had actually happened.

Been thinking lately,
what if I made a huge banner like the 3rd Reich displayed at Nuremberg
and hung it over the front of Sydney Town Hall?

Would there just be outrage at the display of verboten iconography?

Or could the apathetic be stirred into consciousness of past passivity
towards the rise of advocates for privilege and inequality
who would send them to war for profit & glory?

[lovelydivot]

The Sound of Transgenerational WWII Trauma for American Children...

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DON'T GET MAD - It's a truth...Americans got WAY PISSED when Pearl Harbor got hit....

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[skell1ngton777]

yeah they didnt give a shit until pearl harbor lol

[test_recordings]

Japanese politicians really need to stop going to Yasukuni shrine if they want anyone outside of the country to take them seriously .

The British empire is the worst by far though

[Laszlo]

Japanese politicians really need to stop going to Yasukuni shrine if they want anyone outside of the country to take them seriously .

Why's that?

[alphacat]

Because there are international war criminals interred there, men who organized shit like the Rape of Nanking, and these visits are seen as bestowing honor on them.

[Laszlo]

Ah, fair dos. So is there an equivalent British memorial?

Edit - nm, of course there isn't.

[test_recordings]

Well any UK war memorial is going to have criminals in, but they weren't tried because they won. The architect of Dresden bombing, for example. If Germany had won, that guy would be convicted and executed straight up.

The victors write history. The Japanese allowed Yasukuni shrine to have war criminals in there because they weren't criminals under domestic law. You probably don't know why Japan really went to war, other than that they wanted an empire. The fact is, they were essentially part of the American empire until that point (forced by the threat of invasion in to unfair trade agreements about sixty years earlier), and the magic 'West' didn't give a shit about them taking over east Asia until they went for their colonies (I've read news and so on around 1905 that they were earning respect for it). WW2 was a big fuck you to their previous imperialistic masters. The atomic bombs also didn't need to be dropped as they were already in negotiation with the US and Russia about surrender terms (the Russians were actually closer to landing on a main island and the US was worried about the emperor signing exclusively with them).

[nousd]

whatever their reasons,
including their concerns about increasing US monopoly of oil
there was no excuse for Japan's barbarity in China
nor, even allowing for Bushido's cultural influence,
their routine mistreatment of prisoners...
on that score "the winners writing the history" does not conceal sanctioned equally-bad behaviour.
And I'm not convinced that the atomic bombing of Japan didn't save (American) lives
although their military had already squandered so many with Macarthur's ego-trips and the island hopping.
In fact, if it had to happen, it would've been better employed earlier.
But I'm glad I didn't have to make the decision
nor about the fire-bombings of Germany for that matter.

Let's hope we don't find ourselves in such desperate times and places again.
But I'm becoming less optimistic as resources are increasingly depleted and held in ransom.

[Nihilism]

You think that the Americans were any better in Vietnam, or even now, in Iraq or Afghanistan? Hell, even in WWII they weren't not also the heroes ppl think they're were. It's war, how fucked up it sounds.

[lovelydivot]

We could ask South Korea...

You think they'd be happy to switch it up...?