DRUMS

[MARCHMELLOW]

for complicated drum edits i highly reccomend an fx program called GLITCH. it is sick for making edits that would normally take hours, in like 5 seconds. real good for ideas for crazy edits.

(sorry for going through this again but I, as a mash-up freak, have to do it)
It doesn't take hours to make sick breaks, it just takes to know your software. I mean we're talking about effects like retrigger, shuffler, reverser, gater, delay, stretcher... You're supposed to either know how to do that in no time or to teach yourself.
Music production has nothing to do with randomness & laziness.

haha, oooo k , each to their own, you may be a pro, i'm not, along with many others. if you read my message again, you'll see i did say " real good for IDEAS for crazy edits".

if your knowledge is too advanced for this thread, leave it.

[John Locke]

layering 5 bd's and 7 sn's together hehehe.

Bloody hell!

If you're getting to the stage that you feel the need to layer 7 snares, you must either be a severe perfectionist, or have some pretty poor samples no?

Mind you, you may well come out of it with the 'perfect snare'. If so, please PM me a copy.

Each to their own I suppose.

"Each to their own" being exactly the point of layering.

It aint about good or bad samples, or even "the perfect snare", but about personal taste, originality and how YOU want yr drums to sound. if u r happy with just some standard 909 sounds, then cool 4u. but some people r looking for different sounds that u cant just download readymade, and 4 that 7 layers is sometimes the only way.

totally agree with the above posts about lazy fuckers just wanting readymade riddems, melodies etc. but it doesnt bother me cos sum1 with so little imaginiation aint gonna come up with anything more than a copy of a copy, and frankly thats their problem not mine.

[auan]

This weekend I discovered the joys of using Massive for snares.

[gravious]

"Each to their own" being exactly the point of layering.

It aint about good or bad samples, or even "the perfect snare", but about personal taste, originality and how YOU want yr drums to sound.

I'm not doubting the latter part, but it sometimes is about the samples.

All I'm saying is that if you feel you have to layer that many snares just to get a "good"/loud snare, then it may be because the samples you are using aren't that clean/loud etc. If you are layering 7 bad snares to sound like 2 good ones, then theres a problem. If you are doing it because the sound of it appeals to you, and you can get a good noise out of it, then thats great!

I was just looking at this thread from a beginners/advice standpoint. And generally, if you are just starting out you'd probably want some nice clean samples to use, and not want to worry too much about enveloping half a dozen disparate samples into one hit.

Mashing together that many sounds without the requisite skills will probably end up in you losing all the sonic qualities you liked about the samples in the first place into a muddy mess.

totally agree with the above posts about lazy fuckers just wanting readymade riddems, melodies etc. but it doesnt bother me cos sum1 with so little imaginiation aint gonna come up with anything more than a copy of a copy, and frankly thats their problem not mine.

Yup...

Sorry to draw for this again, but:



Next up, Dubstep EJay

[John Locke]

ok, point taken, let u off

[Sharmaji]

Sorry to draw for this again, but:

whynot just download a crack of that dubstep.vst from the torrents? it's got a benga preset, mala preset, skream preset...

[jason burns]

alright, alright. whats the deal with giving people a hard time for asking for help with a certain element of production. shit i've spent YEARS fucking with drums and i'm still not even close to satisfied with my ability to conjure the kick and snare sounds im after. in fact at the moment im extremely frustrated by it. the funny thing is most producers who know usually say the same as gravious. you basically just have to find really good samples to start with. and then do a few minor adjustments. which unfortunately. is alot like panning for gold. great when you find what your looking for. but mostly it's just really tedious and frustrating.