The Official Growl Bass Thread

[somepony]

Hello, people, I know this is just a thread for growl basses but I was wondering if you could help me with a synth I've been trying to get, I just don't know what am I doing wrong, and... you are the most active forum I've seen...in days....well! Here's the synth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-_8aY0-C7I
You can hear it at 0:45
It's some kind of.... vibrating lead... I don't know... So... I know this is not the right place but I'd really appreciate any help. [Like if appretiation was enough *sigh* ]

[JackSawyersMusic]

Hello, people, I know this is just a thread for growl basses but I was wondering if you could help me with a synth I've been trying to get, I just don't know what am I doing wrong, and... you are the most active forum I've seen...in days....well! Here's the synth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-_8aY0-C7I
You can hear it at 0:45
It's some kind of.... vibrating lead... I don't know... So... I know this is not the right place but I'd really appreciate any help. [Like if appretiation was enough *sigh* ]

Start a new thread in the sound design section like seriously

[ravinglogs]

Here is a very vowely growl i've been working on:
Soundcloud

Here is a track i've incorporated my growling techniques into:
Soundcloud

Specifically 0:13, 0:18, 0:29, 0:33 are my proudest growling moments.
Take a listen, tell me what you think. Its a really successful and refined process

HOLY SHIT BRO. These growls are heavy as fuck!

[Augment]

When we say "Otter bass sound" we're talking about what HookJr uses right?

Yes! I think he called it "otter" or something in the sample pack with disciple recs,

dont have my hardrive atm so can't double check ha

The otter sound is not synthesized, it's the tail all the distortion he uses leaves on the sound. So if you use many instances of ohmicide and soundgoodizer/maximus on a sound, you'll get that effect. I think I have it in a growl I made somee years ago, can see if I can find the project file later

[OmegaMode]

When we say "Otter bass sound" we're talking about what HookJr uses right?

Yes! I think he called it "otter" or something in the sample pack with disciple recs,

dont have my hardrive atm so can't double check ha

The otter sound is not synthesized, it's the tail all the distortion he uses leaves on the sound. So if you use many instances of ohmicide and soundgoodizer/maximus on a sound, you'll get that effect. I think I have it in a growl I made somee years ago, can see if I can find the project file later

And how do you know this? I'm not saying your lying I'm just curious because I came pretty damn close to his growl and it was synthesized!

EXAMPLE:
Soundcloud

[Augment]

When we say "Otter bass sound" we're talking about what HookJr uses right?

Yes! I think he called it "otter" or something in the sample pack with disciple recs,

dont have my hardrive atm so can't double check ha

The otter sound is not synthesized, it's the tail all the distortion he uses leaves on the sound. So if you use many instances of ohmicide and soundgoodizer/maximus on a sound, you'll get that effect. I think I have it in a growl I made somee years ago, can see if I can find the project file later

And how do you know this? I'm not saying your lying I'm just curious because I came pretty damn close to his growl and it was synthesized!

EXAMPLE:
Soundcloud

You've misunderstood what sound he's on about, it's not the growl itself, it's what hook called the 'otter' sound. You can hear it in skrillex' Love in Motion remix aswell.

EDIT: Here's three sounds that come from the same bi-effect of distortion
https://soundcloud.com/blinkesko/otters/s-i16hH
First one's skrillex's in Love in Motion, second one is Hook's and third one is one I quickly did with waay too much distortion. When you use fx chains like skrillex and hook, they'll sound better than the one I did there, but I cba making a chain now, so I just exaggerated it with a few plugins to get a similar effect

[Labco]

You've misunderstood what sound he's on about, it's not the growl itself, it's what hook called the 'otter' sound. You can hear it in skrillex' Love in Motion remix aswell.

EDIT: Here's three sounds that come from the same bi-effect of distortion
https://soundcloud.com/blinkesko/otters/s-i16hH
First one's skrillex's in Love in Motion, second one is Hook's and third one is one I quickly did with waay too much distortion. When you use fx chains like skrillex and hook, they'll sound better than the one I did there, but I cba making a chain now, so I just exaggerated it with a few plugins to get a similar effect

Ahhh I see thank you! I was trying to replicate that in massive by modulating the tail of my waveform hmm silly me

Anyway barely alive use ableton as do I so that knocks sound goodizer/maximus out of the equation

and i'm not getting a similar effect just by layering lots of ohmicide and exaggerating the eqs

The drawing board gentlemen, I am back to it

[Augment]

You've misunderstood what sound he's on about, it's not the growl itself, it's what hook called the 'otter' sound. You can hear it in skrillex' Love in Motion remix aswell.

EDIT: Here's three sounds that come from the same bi-effect of distortion
https://soundcloud.com/blinkesko/otters/s-i16hH
First one's skrillex's in Love in Motion, second one is Hook's and third one is one I quickly did with waay too much distortion. When you use fx chains like skrillex and hook, they'll sound better than the one I did there, but I cba making a chain now, so I just exaggerated it with a few plugins to get a similar effect

Ahhh I see thank you! I was trying to replicate that in massive by modulating the tail of my waveform hmm silly me

Anyway barely alive use ableton as do I so that knocks sound goodizer/maximus out of the equation

and i'm not getting a similar effect just by layering lots of ohmicide and exaggerating the eqs

The drawing board gentlemen, I am back to it

Well the maximus/soundgoodizer thing is basically just overcompression. I know that they've spent alot of time figuring out how to get overcompression without it sounding ugly, so they've probably used it on the growls aswell, to bring out the harmonics/formants after eq modulation along with the distortion
Maximus/soundgoodizer is just a quick way to get the same-sih result

[Labco]

Well the maximus/soundgoodizer thing is basically just overcompression. I know that they've spent alot of time figuring out how to get overcompression without it sounding ugly, so they've probably used it on the growls aswell, to bring out the harmonics/formants after eq modulation along with the distortion
Maximus/soundgoodizer is just a quick way to get the same-sih result

*Inserts 10 instances of sausage fattener*

haha Its not even a sound I'd particularily use, more interested from an educational standpoint

But thanks for yo help!

Also find it pretty funny that hook started this thread 2 years ago and now 90% of the posts are about him

[OcularEDM]

Ooooooooooookie dokie.

So, first off, I made a newer version which I think sounds better:
Soundcloud

But that's not really important.

So first off, the bass was made in FM8. Instead of explaining everything, I'll just show a couple of pictures:


After this, automate the matrix A to F for vowel movement. It sounds best if you don't go below about 55%.

The FX chain includes a vocodex:


And the bass has a little bit of stereo widening (keep in mind that this has no sub, you add that seperately after the process is done).

Next, you'll want to bounce that to audio and resample it. This part is pretty simple though. I used Harmor, so if you don't have this you can resample some other way if you like, but in this tutorial I'll be explaining how to do it in Harmor.
1) Go into Harmor's "ADV" tab
2) For "precision," change average to perfect
3) Turn the denoise knob all the way down
4) Change image/resynthesis from generic to high precision
5) Set unison to 2, turn the pan all the way down, bring the pitch all the way down, and turn down the phase just a teeeeny bit but not past 30% jump ahead.
6) Drop the bass audio into the "IMG" tab on the image section.
7) On the FX tab, add a little bit of chorus and a little bit of classic distortion.

That's it for this part! You can now bounce the bass to audio again.

Now this is where it gets a little tougher, but bear with me. The final result is definitely worth it.

1) Drop the last bass you exported into a playlist.
2) Very first thing you need is a low pass filter. This is absolutely VITAL, you WILL NOT be able to make the bass without it. Keep the resonance all the way down and automate the cutoff with the vowel movement. It may not sound right at first, but trust me on this
3) Next you'll need another Vocodex (or any other vocoder that you can copy this stuff into) that looks like this:

For this, you'll want to automate the vocodex's "wet" knob along with the vowel movement as well. I automated mine with a range from 29% to 72%.
4) Add an EQ boosting the mids and highs. Just do this to the way you think it sounds good, it's a matter of preference more than anything.
5) After this, add a CamelCrusher. (For those of you who don't know, it's a free distortion plugin with a built in filter and compressor)
Make sure that you turn off "phat mode" or it won't sound very nice. Then, set the master volume at about 3/4 of the way up and set the compressor at about the same level. Turn off the filter section and turn down the tube distortion a little bit.
6) Here I added a Dimension Expander VST by Xfer but you could probably substitute it wth something like iZotope Ozone Imager.
7) After this, a waveshaper. Picture is below, nothing too fancy here.

Lastly, a bit of reverb. This part is optional, but if you do decide to add it, make sure you cut out all frequencies below 2000 hz.

There you have it! If any of you are interested, I could also upload the patches used in this project to make things easier. Good luck, and happy bassing!

Just reposting this with my new account

[bouncingfish]

Ocular, you are the most amazing person ever.
I'll never get close but at least now I have an idea.

[Augment]

Well the maximus/soundgoodizer thing is basically just overcompression. I know that they've spent alot of time figuring out how to get overcompression without it sounding ugly, so they've probably used it on the growls aswell, to bring out the harmonics/formants after eq modulation along with the distortion
Maximus/soundgoodizer is just a quick way to get the same-sih result

*Inserts 10 instances of sausage fattener*

haha Its not even a sound I'd particularily use, more interested from an educational standpoint

But thanks for yo help!

Also find it pretty funny that hook started this thread 2 years ago and now 90% of the posts are about him

Haha no problem c:
And yeah, he has put alot of effort into making the growls he makes today, so I'd say it's well deserved that he gets some dsf points for it :p

[WolfCryOfficial]

Nobody even knows im alive....

[JackSawyersMusic]

I seriously think people are focusing on the patch too much and not thinking about pitch and EQ modulation, I know this sound is simple, I've made it before, I'll try and replicate the Barely Alive sound, no guarantees but I'll post back next week some time

[bouncingfish]

Nobody even knows im alive....

wat?

[Labco]

Nobody even knows im alive....

wat?

I think he's upset noone asked him about his growl

[bouncingfish]

I wanna hear about it, I think I replied.

[RedCyan]

I don't know if this has already been made here before, but I made a growl with Sytrus:
Soundcloud
Basically, it's a saw wave modulated by a sine wave, modulated by a saw wave (I tweaked some of the harmonics on them, though) And I also added chorus, EQ, and reverb.

[JackSawyersMusic]

I don't know if this has already been made here before, but I made a growl with Sytrus:
Soundcloud
Basically, it's a saw wave modulated by a sine wave, modulated by a saw wave (I tweaked some of the harmonics on them, though) And I also added chorus, EQ, and reverb.

Synth sounds alright but can we hear it without the FL stock drums first please just to hear what's going on?

[RedCyan]

I don't know if this has already been made here before, but I made a growl with Sytrus:
Soundcloud
Basically, it's a saw wave modulated by a sine wave, modulated by a saw wave (I tweaked some of the harmonics on them, though) And I also added chorus, EQ, and reverb.

Synth sounds alright but can we hear it without the FL stock drums first please just to hear what's going on?

Soundcloud